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48 miles is probably good enough for 95%+ of people. Also worth noting that that’s higher than any other PHEV in its class (SUV).

• Robotbeat 5y ago
  The rav4 Prime is sufficient at nearly 50 miles of electric range, but it sucks that it took 2 decades to get there when even GM had the technology basically perfected a decade ago with the Volt. It’s literally better than their hydrogen vehicles. Even if you had to synthesize the small amount of gasoline they might use. Longer range plug in hybrids plus electrically synthesized liquids beat pure hydrogen vehicles in cost, refueling ease, and overall emissions.
  • dragonwriter 5y ago
    > GM had the technology basically perfected a decade ago with the Volt. The Volt is tiny car with limited utility. The RAV4 EV has vastly more cargo and passenger space. For a single person going from point A to point B it might not matter, but the technical challenge of battery range plus utility isn't the same as battery range disregarding utility.
    • Robotbeat 5y ago
      I have a Volt and it's awesome. It's a hatchback with lots of cargo space (5 seats in the Gen 2 Volt, too). Don't know that you mean about "limited utility." The Volt powertrain would've worked fine in a crossover vehicle like the Rav4 with only a small scale-up.
      • dragonwriter 5y ago
        > I have a Volt and it's awesome. It's a hatchback with lots of cargo space It has 10.6 ft³ of cargo space. A Yaris (a subcompact) hatchback has 15.4 ft³, Prius Prime has 19.8 ft³, Honda Civic Hatchback has 24.5 ft³, RAV4 Prime has 33.6 ft³ (for models with folding seats, those are all without seats folded.) The Volt doesn't have “lots” of cargo space, it has miserably small cargo space whether compared against other compact cars or other PHEVs.
        • yurishimo 5y ago
          Depends on where they're located. Outside America, subcompact cars are still the norm unless you need the utility of something large for your immediate family/job. Only got 2 kids? Subcompact.
          • dragonwriter 5y ago
            > Outside America, subcompact cars are still the norm unless you need the utility of something large for your immediate family/job. Yes, and by that standard the Volt is a big car (not a subcompact), but still has small cargo space for a hatchback (2/3 of a Yaris, which is a subcompact.) By American standards, its a fairly small car that has very small cargo space relative to its size, and so tiny cargo space compared to what the market expects. And also small compared to competing PHEVs, which to be fair generally also have small cargo space relative to size.
• TheParkShark 5y ago
  It may be good but no one (in America) wants 48 miles. People complain about the range on current EV’s during winter. A nice round number like 100 has a much better chance of appealing to consumers.
  • jeeeb 5y ago
    Right but the advantage of a PHEV is that it can switch to using its ICE. With a full tank you should have a range of 1000km+. Theoretically (if it works well) it’s an EV for short trips combined with an ICE for longer trips in a single car. That should overcome the range and charge time objections to BEVs.
    • fomine3 5y ago
      Bonus from ICE is that it generates massive waste heats, so the heat can be used for heater in winter.