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They're not automatically turning on if you're "turning them off" from Control Center. Those buttons just temporarily disable them (and state that clearly when

They're not automatically turning on if you're "turning them off" from Control Center. Those buttons just temporarily disable them (and state that clearly when you do so). The only way to actually turn off Wifi and Bluetooth is to go into Settings and turn them off there.

MAGZine 5y ago
"Clearly" it's not as clear as you think it is. On android, if I turn bluetooth off from the quick access menu, it stays off--which is what I expect.
- marcellus23 5y ago
  Can't get much clearer than text that says "Disconnecting nearby wi-fi networks until tomorrow."
  - bkallus 5y ago
    But that same button used to be a permananent toggle, and now there is no way to restore the (better) old behavior. Another instance of Apple thinking they know better than their users.
    - marcellus23 5y ago
      You are not everyone. Just because you think it's better doesn't mean it actually is. Most of the time when I want to disconnect from Wifi, it's a temporary measure because the network I'm connected to is slow or dead. I imagine it's the same for many others. Apple is notoriously allergic to putting toggles for every little thing, and that shouldn't be a surprise to software developers. We all know every user-configurable setting increases complexity.
      - mixmastamyk 5y ago
        If you want to have a disconnect button, add as another button choice to the panel. Even make it default. But the original button shouldn't have been broken with no recourse. Not to mention, some brief wordy nearby text display in tiny print after the fact, is the opposite of clear.
      - howaboutnope 5y ago
        > We all know every user-configurable setting increases complexity. They can also mean the difference between a tool and a toy or even worse, a slave collar. One of the good practices in programming is to not hardcode things. Where that is followed, often the hardest part about configurability is the UI for it, since under the hood it's already determined by a bunch of variables anyway, and it's mostly a matter of exposing them nicely to the user. Besides, it's way more complex to have a timed toggle than just a toggle.
        marcellus23 5y ago
        > a slave collar for real? because you have to go into the Settings app to turn off wifi permanently? Sometimes you people are delusional.
        howaboutnope 5y ago
        "you people" -- you don't know the first thing about me. And this argument to excuse to treat adult consumers like infants, and use the people that don't mind as the measure all other adults have to reduce themselves to, is used for a lot more than just a wifi toggle.
    - chesc 5y ago
      +1
  - oauea 5y ago
    Does it say that text on the button before you press it? Do you have a screenshot?
    - deelowe 5y ago
      https://imgur.com/a/zk382Wl https://imgur.com/a/zk382Wl
    - asix66 5y ago
      It does indeed say, clearly, "Disconnecting Nearby Wi-Fi Until Tomorrow" [0] [0] https://ibb.co/kJ59LCN https://ibb.co/kJ59LCN
      - mixmastamyk 5y ago
        That's afterward.
    - marcellus23 5y ago
      Does it matter if it's before or after? It's not a destructive action.
unethical_ban 5y ago
It's different than Android, and different from itself pre-iOS13. It is a new behavior that cannot be toggled.
mixmastamyk 5y ago
Also the BT is often turned on after an update. I know this because I’ve never ever used it, therefore never had it on purposely.
- cygned 5y ago
  They do that in order to allow accessibility devices to connect for disabled users, I’ve been told.
J253 5y ago
This is one of the nice things about shortcuts. I created a shortcut that will turn off wifi and Bluetooth. You can then add an icon to your home screen to run the shortcut and boom. Both are actually turned off…not just disabled for 24 hours. I also have a shortcut to turn them back on when I need them.

MAGZine 5y ago

"Clearly" it's not as clear as you think it is. On android, if I turn bluetooth off from the quick access menu, it stays off--which is what I expect.

marcellus23 5y ago
Can't get much clearer than text that says "Disconnecting nearby wi-fi networks until tomorrow."
- bkallus 5y ago
  But that same button used to be a permananent toggle, and now there is no way to restore the (better) old behavior. Another instance of Apple thinking they know better than their users.
  - marcellus23 5y ago
    You are not everyone. Just because you think it's better doesn't mean it actually is. Most of the time when I want to disconnect from Wifi, it's a temporary measure because the network I'm connected to is slow or dead. I imagine it's the same for many others. Apple is notoriously allergic to putting toggles for every little thing, and that shouldn't be a surprise to software developers. We all know every user-configurable setting increases complexity.
    - mixmastamyk 5y ago
      If you want to have a disconnect button, add as another button choice to the panel. Even make it default. But the original button shouldn't have been broken with no recourse. Not to mention, some brief wordy nearby text display in tiny print after the fact, is the opposite of clear.
    - howaboutnope 5y ago
      > We all know every user-configurable setting increases complexity. They can also mean the difference between a tool and a toy or even worse, a slave collar. One of the good practices in programming is to not hardcode things. Where that is followed, often the hardest part about configurability is the UI for it, since under the hood it's already determined by a bunch of variables anyway, and it's mostly a matter of exposing them nicely to the user. Besides, it's way more complex to have a timed toggle than just a toggle.
      - marcellus23 5y ago
        > a slave collar for real? because you have to go into the Settings app to turn off wifi permanently? Sometimes you people are delusional.
        howaboutnope 5y ago
        "you people" -- you don't know the first thing about me. And this argument to excuse to treat adult consumers like infants, and use the people that don't mind as the measure all other adults have to reduce themselves to, is used for a lot more than just a wifi toggle.
  - chesc 5y ago
    +1
- oauea 5y ago
  Does it say that text on the button before you press it? Do you have a screenshot?
  - deelowe 5y ago
    https://imgur.com/a/zk382Wl https://imgur.com/a/zk382Wl
  - asix66 5y ago
    It does indeed say, clearly, "Disconnecting Nearby Wi-Fi Until Tomorrow" [0] [0] https://ibb.co/kJ59LCN https://ibb.co/kJ59LCN
    - mixmastamyk 5y ago
      That's afterward.
  - marcellus23 5y ago
    Does it matter if it's before or after? It's not a destructive action.

unethical_ban 5y ago

It's different than Android, and different from itself pre-iOS13. It is a new behavior that cannot be toggled.

mixmastamyk 5y ago

Also the BT is often turned on after an update. I know this because I’ve never ever used it, therefore never had it on purposely.

cygned 5y ago
They do that in order to allow accessibility devices to connect for disabled users, I’ve been told.

J253 5y ago

This is one of the nice things about shortcuts. I created a shortcut that will turn off wifi and Bluetooth. You can then add an icon to your home screen to run the shortcut and boom. Both are actually turned off…not just disabled for 24 hours. I also have a shortcut to turn them back on when I need them.