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One point about smartphones that doesn’t necessarily apply to combine harvesters is that gluing everything together enables more compact, durable designs. There

One point about smartphones that doesn’t necessarily apply to combine harvesters is that gluing everything together enables more compact, durable designs. There are plenty of arguments against this but there is a big one for it: consumers like compact, durable products. I actually read the FTC report and it doesn’t actually offer a good argument on this point, concluding only that “further research is required” to see if consumers would be willing to make trade offs for better repairability.[1] [1] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/reports/nixing-fix-ftc-report-congress-repair-restrictions/nixing_the_fix_report_final_5521_630pm-508_002.pdf#page34 https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/reports/nixing-fi...

tpxl 5y ago
> gluing everything together enables more compact, durable designs Maybe a tiiiiiiiny bit more compact, but definitely not more durable. Frame.work can apparently produce easily serviceable, rather thin designs of laptops that are even modular (www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkTgPt3M4k). This is way thinner than my 2008 era HP and thinner than my 2021 era Lenovo. As far as phones go, the PCBs are a tiny part of the phone (The cpu, ram, storage combined are less than 1/2 of the phone surface area and probably less than 1/4 of the volume) so gluing them together doesn't even get you much. You might get a _small_ bit by soldering in the battery in the sense that you then don't need a "box" for the removable battery, but that is a small amount of space compared to the battery itself.
- TheParkShark 5y ago
  Is the only purpose of the glue to make it harder to disassemble? If nothing else changed but glue wasn’t added would the product still function and look the same?
  - mrguyorama 5y ago
    It makes waterproofing a bit easier I think
8note 5y ago
I don't think customers like small compact designs. They generally keep their phones in large cases to get the size back up

tpxl 5y ago

> gluing everything together enables more compact, durable designs Maybe a tiiiiiiiny bit more compact, but definitely not more durable. Frame.work can apparently produce easily serviceable, rather thin designs of laptops that are even modular (www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkTgPt3M4k). This is way thinner than my 2008 era HP and thinner than my 2021 era Lenovo. As far as phones go, the PCBs are a tiny part of the phone (The cpu, ram, storage combined are less than 1/2 of the phone surface area and probably less than 1/4 of the volume) so gluing them together doesn't even get you much. You might get a _small_ bit by soldering in the battery in the sense that you then don't need a "box" for the removable battery, but that is a small amount of space compared to the battery itself.

TheParkShark 5y ago
Is the only purpose of the glue to make it harder to disassemble? If nothing else changed but glue wasn’t added would the product still function and look the same?
- mrguyorama 5y ago
  It makes waterproofing a bit easier I think

8note 5y ago

I don't think customers like small compact designs. They generally keep their phones in large cases to get the size back up