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But do the farmers want the kinds of changes that would allow them to not be slaves to supermarkets and John Deere? Farmers have a strong leaning in politics to

by ziml77 5y ago

But do the farmers want the kinds of changes that would allow them to not be slaves to supermarkets and John Deere? Farmers have a strong leaning in politics towards a side that doesn't like treating people as babies who can't make their own decisions. They could strike on the basis of fighting back against supermarkets throwing their weight around. I agree that striking because of right to repair makes no sense; the fight back against locked down equipment would be to not buy from manufacturers that lock their stuff down. I don't agree with the idea that we don't need regulation, but it's important to consider that telling people they need the government to protect them will lead to those people pushing back even harder against change.

kickout 5y ago
I mean, this is like a fanfic comment. Can you cite ONE example of this happening? Maybe in a hyper niche crop, but this is easily a very, very, VERY rare occurrence. Don't know of really any farmers (outside of super small scale organic ones) that deal with supermarkets directly
- ziml77 5y ago
  I guess I was a little unclear. My point was that if these things are happening, then there are ways to counter them that don't involve government intervention. And the parent comment was talking about how a strike due to right-to-repair would backfire which, to me, was implying that strikes couldn't work at all. I don't believe that's true which is why I pointed out that a strike could help for other issues. I don't know what else a farmer might strike over in terms of the issues they currently face, so I just reused what the parent comment was stating as fact. But if there are other similar issues affecting them now, you could swap one of those in.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
People tend to politic in their best interests regardless of expressed ideology. I don't think very many farmers are in favor of ending farm subsidies, Iowa corn growers are very much for ethanol pledges, etc.
- nerdponx 5y ago
  I'd take it a step further and argue that ideology follows policy, in that people adjust their ideologies to support the policies that benefit them, or to be compatible with the candidates whose policies would benefit them.

by ziml77 5y ago

kickout 5y ago

I mean, this is like a fanfic comment. Can you cite ONE example of this happening? Maybe in a hyper niche crop, but this is easily a very, very, VERY rare occurrence. Don't know of really any farmers (outside of super small scale organic ones) that deal with supermarkets directly

ziml77 5y ago
I guess I was a little unclear. My point was that if these things are happening, then there are ways to counter them that don't involve government intervention. And the parent comment was talking about how a strike due to right-to-repair would backfire which, to me, was implying that strikes couldn't work at all. I don't believe that's true which is why I pointed out that a strike could help for other issues. I don't know what else a farmer might strike over in terms of the issues they currently face, so I just reused what the parent comment was stating as fact. But if there are other similar issues affecting them now, you could swap one of those in.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

People tend to politic in their best interests regardless of expressed ideology. I don't think very many farmers are in favor of ending farm subsidies, Iowa corn growers are very much for ethanol pledges, etc.

nerdponx 5y ago
I'd take it a step further and argue that ideology follows policy, in that people adjust their ideologies to support the policies that benefit them, or to be compatible with the candidates whose policies would benefit them.