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I completely agree. I fear that the lack of a common cultural ground will make society even more individualistic, antagonistic and enforce the existing tribe me

by syoc 5y ago

I completely agree. I fear that the lack of a common cultural ground will make society even more individualistic, antagonistic and enforce the existing tribe mentality even further. It is also something I don't see getting any better. There are a lot more divisive trends right know than uniting in my opinion.

barneygale 5y ago
Culture has been hyper-local since forever, and you'll never remove that instinct. It's a success story for humanity, not a problem to address. The issue we face today is that it's profitable to provide free online arenas where tribes can do battle.
- Loughla 5y ago
  I think the larger problem is that hyper-local used to mean your neighborhood, family/friends, and generally the people around you. You went to the same places, you saw each other often, you interacted. In general, this is not the case anymore. In general, the wide-wide world huge tribe has invaded the hyper-local space via politics, religion, or whatever else and has segmented even those local spaces. Neighborhood block parties were a thing in the area I live, up until about 2004. Now they're a quaint weird one-off that one local neighborhood does. People don't know each other, other than to know that Joe lives in that house, and Sara lives in that one, with no context about who they are; until Joe puts a Trump flag up, now everyone knows what he's about. I don't know what my purpose is for writing that, it's just an observation I've made.
  - dhosek 5y ago
    A lot of that hyperlocality was because the only way to hear music was to go to a live performance. The only way to enjoy a dramatic performance was to go to a live performance. In the era before widespread dissemination of printed materials and widespread literacy, the only way to enjoy a literary work was to—you guessed it—go to a live performance. This meant, among other things, that there was a period of time when a larger portion of the population was able to make a living (albeit not necessarily a good living) through arts performance. Jerry Lewis, for example, got into show business to support his family (this was also the case with the Marx brothers a generation earlier). As technology has increased the ability to disseminate artistic work, it has become a smaller fraction of the population gaining a wider audience. Some of the trends, e.g., streaming music, have ended up with recorded music becoming economically unviable for smaller acts (the numbers are widely disseminated so I won't get into that). Not sure where things are going from here, or what the anomalous period in human culture really was or will be.
    - Outpost13 5y ago
      hm? let me try to answer with some thoughts about (OT) 'An other definition of littering Culture?', i thought yesterday... 'Throw-away-culture ? Social disposable Culture ? An evading government Off-the-rails controversies There is talk of: "Serious charcateristic 'changes, variances, mutations'" 'Speculative security reached critical marks' ...may be some of 'the news' headlines '...Just for one day' (Quoting D. Bowie) ^^ Hint: looks like 'we all want a windowplace but are only growing shaddows...' reagrds...
  - bigbillheck 5y ago
    > In general, this is not the case anymore. In the US at least, this hasn't really been the case since the telegraph went in.

by syoc 5y ago

barneygale 5y ago

Culture has been hyper-local since forever, and you'll never remove that instinct. It's a success story for humanity, not a problem to address. The issue we face today is that it's profitable to provide free online arenas where tribes can do battle.

Loughla 5y ago
I think the larger problem is that hyper-local used to mean your neighborhood, family/friends, and generally the people around you. You went to the same places, you saw each other often, you interacted. In general, this is not the case anymore. In general, the wide-wide world huge tribe has invaded the hyper-local space via politics, religion, or whatever else and has segmented even those local spaces. Neighborhood block parties were a thing in the area I live, up until about 2004. Now they're a quaint weird one-off that one local neighborhood does. People don't know each other, other than to know that Joe lives in that house, and Sara lives in that one, with no context about who they are; until Joe puts a Trump flag up, now everyone knows what he's about. I don't know what my purpose is for writing that, it's just an observation I've made.
- dhosek 5y ago
  A lot of that hyperlocality was because the only way to hear music was to go to a live performance. The only way to enjoy a dramatic performance was to go to a live performance. In the era before widespread dissemination of printed materials and widespread literacy, the only way to enjoy a literary work was to—you guessed it—go to a live performance. This meant, among other things, that there was a period of time when a larger portion of the population was able to make a living (albeit not necessarily a good living) through arts performance. Jerry Lewis, for example, got into show business to support his family (this was also the case with the Marx brothers a generation earlier). As technology has increased the ability to disseminate artistic work, it has become a smaller fraction of the population gaining a wider audience. Some of the trends, e.g., streaming music, have ended up with recorded music becoming economically unviable for smaller acts (the numbers are widely disseminated so I won't get into that). Not sure where things are going from here, or what the anomalous period in human culture really was or will be.
  - Outpost13 5y ago
    hm? let me try to answer with some thoughts about (OT) 'An other definition of littering Culture?', i thought yesterday... 'Throw-away-culture ? Social disposable Culture ? An evading government Off-the-rails controversies There is talk of: "Serious charcateristic 'changes, variances, mutations'" 'Speculative security reached critical marks' ...may be some of 'the news' headlines '...Just for one day' (Quoting D. Bowie) ^^ Hint: looks like 'we all want a windowplace but are only growing shaddows...' reagrds...
- bigbillheck 5y ago
  > In general, this is not the case anymore. In the US at least, this hasn't really been the case since the telegraph went in.