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Forget Anonymous: Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election

23 points by atdt 15y ago

eli 15y ago
No, the evidence does not suggest that. At best, it asserts that it may have been possible. There is no evidence that it happened.
- GiraffeNecktie 15y ago
  Harvey Wasserman, who wrote a book on the stolen 2004 election, explained that the combination of computer hacking, ballot destruction, and the discrepancy between exit polling (which showed a big Kerry win in Ohio) and the "real" vote tabulation, all point to one answer: the Republicans stole the 2004 election. "The 2004 election was stolen. There is absolutely no doubt about it. A 6.7% shift in exit polls does not happen by chance. And, you know, so finally, we have irrefutable confirmation that what we were saying was true and that every piece of the puzzle in the Ohio 2004 election was flawed," Wasserman said.
  - jimlast 15y ago
    One guy making a claim and exit poll discrepancies do not equal evidence.
    - trevelyan 15y ago
      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/19/VOTERFRAUD.TMP http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/19/...
- tzs 15y ago
  There's more than just what is in that article to suggest something fishy went on in Ohio. For instance, election officials in one county claimed they had received a warning from the FBI that there was a terrorist threat, so for security reasons they excluded the normal press and public observers from the vote counting. It may just all be coincidence. Maybe the "terrorist threat" was an honest mistake. Maybe the statistical oddities were really just one in a million flukes. Maybe Karl Rove has nothing to hide and he's just using an army of lawyers to keep putting off having to actually be deposed over the 2004 Ohio election because he wants to make sure the lawyers have work in these tough economic times...
jimlast 15y ago
This is just ridiculous.
burgerbrain 15y ago
I feel like I've just been teleported half a decade back in time.
glimcat 15y ago
Unless that's a time machine in your pocket, the only thing useful to take away from this in 2011 is that we should work towards more open and accountable voting methods in the future.
emit_time_n3rgy 15y ago
Greg Palast has been someone worth looking into when it comes to these issues http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm http://www.gregpalast.com/2004/ http://www.gregpalast.com/2004/ http://www.gregpalast.com/store/?id=13 http://www.gregpalast.com/store/?id=13

23 points by atdt 15y ago

eli 15y ago

No, the evidence does not suggest that. At best, it asserts that it may have been possible. There is no evidence that it happened.

GiraffeNecktie 15y ago
Harvey Wasserman, who wrote a book on the stolen 2004 election, explained that the combination of computer hacking, ballot destruction, and the discrepancy between exit polling (which showed a big Kerry win in Ohio) and the "real" vote tabulation, all point to one answer: the Republicans stole the 2004 election. "The 2004 election was stolen. There is absolutely no doubt about it. A 6.7% shift in exit polls does not happen by chance. And, you know, so finally, we have irrefutable confirmation that what we were saying was true and that every piece of the puzzle in the Ohio 2004 election was flawed," Wasserman said.
- jimlast 15y ago
  One guy making a claim and exit poll discrepancies do not equal evidence.
  - trevelyan 15y ago
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/19/VOTERFRAUD.TMP http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/19/...
tzs 15y ago
There's more than just what is in that article to suggest something fishy went on in Ohio. For instance, election officials in one county claimed they had received a warning from the FBI that there was a terrorist threat, so for security reasons they excluded the normal press and public observers from the vote counting. It may just all be coincidence. Maybe the "terrorist threat" was an honest mistake. Maybe the statistical oddities were really just one in a million flukes. Maybe Karl Rove has nothing to hide and he's just using an army of lawyers to keep putting off having to actually be deposed over the 2004 Ohio election because he wants to make sure the lawyers have work in these tough economic times...

jimlast 15y ago

This is just ridiculous.

burgerbrain 15y ago

I feel like I've just been teleported half a decade back in time.

glimcat 15y ago

Unless that's a time machine in your pocket, the only thing useful to take away from this in 2011 is that we should work towards more open and accountable voting methods in the future.

emit_time_n3rgy 15y ago

Greg Palast has been someone worth looking into when it comes to these issues http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm http://www.gregpalast.com/2004/ http://www.gregpalast.com/2004/ http://www.gregpalast.com/store/?id=13 http://www.gregpalast.com/store/?id=13