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Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display
- neolog 5y agoWhat could this be useful for?
- braincoke 5y agoArt?
- robbedpeter 5y agoGames, 3d modeling, novel UI - better than 1080p resolution and 60hz refresh means the experience could actually be good, and not feel like a cheap hacky "pepper's ghost" type trick. That price feels right, and the product is pretty damn cool, imo.
- yourenotsmart 5y ago3D modeling and novel UI implies there's a new way to interact with the content on the display. Aside from the shallow depth effect, the input is still perfectly 2D. You can't touch and manipulate a 3D object here any more than you can on a tablet. The fact there's no killer app here and potential uses fall flat upon closer inspection will likely mean this technology has more of a future at entertainment venues, maybe museums, I don't know. But not as personal mainstream devices.
- errantspark 5y agoThis doesn't have better than 1080p res does it? I didn't see mention of a refresh rate anywhere either but the screen this uses is 2048 x 1536 and it purports 100 views so the actual image resolution is likely on the order of 200 x 150. I imagine it feels a bit better than that since you're seeing multiple images. Also note that the hologram only appears 3D in one plane, if you move above or below the plane the illusion is lost (correct me if I'm wrong on that I haven't seen one in person). It's not useful in this form, but lenticular displays are neat and I might try and build one sometime.
- sp332 5y agoThe Portrait is the smallest one they make. There's also a 15" version with 4k inputs for $3,000 and a 32-inch version without a listed price. The illusion doesn't have multiple vertical layers, but it still looks 3D if you are off-angle. You just see the same image(s) up there that you would if you bent down. Turning your head flattens the image though.
- perryizgr8 5y agoI would like this as a digital photo frame on my desk. If the portrait mode conversion works as well as I hope.
- CTOSian 5y ago3d pr0n for sure!
- tomjen3 5y agoProduct display, art display, companion to a 3D modellor. But, most important, this is very interesting future tech, which means it is prime HN material even if we cannot find a good use for it.
- asah 5y agobought during the crowdfunding and they delivered... hardware was great but the software was a useless mess and I donated them. once again, hardware folks trying to design software, is like fish trying to design bicycles. (so many basic things wrong including proprietary software, lack of cross-platform support, etc etc etc, I didn't even bother trying to catalog them all) (what did I expect? oh, I dunno... in 2021... WebGL and three.js and a bunch of flat file HTML demos that work right in major browsers on a raspberry pi, mac or pc laptop...)
- boboche 5y agoWhy is HN spammed with looking glass auto stereoscopic (NOT holographic) spam since 2 weeks? Am I the only one annoyed by this?
- RicoElectrico 5y agoTechnically not holographic, but still a significant upgrade over autostereoscopic - there are way more views than 2, all without tracking, for multiple simultaneous viewers.
- boboche 5y agoAutostereoscopic can be multiview. I’ve worked with 9 and 25 viewpoints, (on which you could also add eye tracking) without anything tracking, you could move left and right and still get some volume effect. Its repeating and somewhat limited but basically its the same thing here. More viewpoints, less resolution, better angular projection.
- calciphus 5y agoBecause they shipped to a bunch of backers of their kickstarter over they last two weeks and people are excited?
- wildpeaks 5y agoRecently received the new Portrait version and was amazed by how much lighter it is compared to the original horizontal one that looked more like a glass case.
- OliverM 5y agoI was pretty excited by this, so I went to pre-order. On the add-ons page, there are some nice additions like a leap motion controller. But there's also this: 2D-to-3D Conversion: 1000 Credits Convert 2D images into 3D depth images for holographic display. +$150.00 2D-to-3D Conversion: 100 Credits Convert 2D images into 3D depth images for holographic display. +$20.00 There's no mention of this type of per-interaction charging model on the product's splash page. Instead of excited I'm now disillusioned and irritated. Imagine Adobe tried to charge you every time you converted an image format in photoshop. Is the conversion process so complex that you need to upload a sample image to their servers or something? Why on earth can't I do that locally as many times as I like? It totally stymies experimentation.
- errantspark 5y agoI bet it's a NN that they've trained to make their image quilts based on photos and it may be hard to ship to the end user. That being said SaaS is a cancer upon humanity.
- enriquto 5y ago> it may be hard to ship to the end user just upload it to some publicly accessible website? It doesn't look that hard.
- errantspark 5y agoShip in this case doesn't mean "deliver an asset" but rather "deliver a user experience", nailing the latter consistently is non trivial. I do think people making SaaS products start by wanting to charge rent and then work backwards from there to a justification most of the time.
- OliverM 5y agoThere's a bit more info about the process here: https://lookingglassfactory.com/3d-photos https://lookingglassfactory.com/3d-photos It is a cloud-based service, Owl3D. They use AI to deduce depth info from photos. You can subscribe to Owl3D directly, for $8 a month, and get 300 uploads per day for that (so, 9,000 a month for $8, vs 20 for $100 Looking Glass). I don't know if that direct Owl3D subscription can take advantage of depth info though: https://www.owl3d.ai/faqs https://www.owl3d.ai/faqs
- pixelpoet 5y agoAnyone know what the SDK is like for this, especially for C++? I'd grab one immediately to play around with, if (and only if) it's dev friendly.
- calciphus 5y agoThey have unity, blender, and unreal sdks available. Also a sdk for custom integrations. https://lookingglassfactory.com/software https://lookingglassfactory.com/software
- aerodog 5y agoIs this a hoax or for real?
- errantspark 5y agoIt's real and quite trivial to DIY a shitty version. http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~mhirsch/byo3d/tutorial/lenticular.html http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~mhirsch/byo3d/tutorial/lenticul...
- iseanstevens 5y agoNice link, thanks!
- sp332 5y agoI have an earlier version from this company and it's real.
- rwmj 5y agoIt's real. Linus Tech Tips did a video about it yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrfMHaI3Dk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrfMHaI3Dk
- theNJR 5y agoI got one during the crowd funding campaign and received it a few months ago. Played with it for an hour or two. It now sits unplugged on my desk. It’s too distracting to be always on, and too limited to turn on occasionally. I’m just not sure what to do with this thing.
- thomascgalvin 5y agoI think you're supposed to ~~look into the future~~.
- rwmj 5y agoI get where you're coming from. Having said that my in-laws have an electronic photo frame that requires an actual monthly subscription (for mobile connectivity) which they have switched on permanently and seem to enjoy - we can send them new photos online. So I guess some people would love a 3D version of that.
- leshokunin 5y agoWhat’s the frame? Asking because it could make a good NFT display
- rwmj 5y agoPretty sure it's this one: https://www.au.com/mobile/charge/photoframe/photo-u2/ https://www.au.com/mobile/charge/photoframe/photo-u2/ According to the notice on the page, it looks like they're dropping the CDMA service it relies on next year!
- leshokunin 5y agoOh sweet. Sorry if that’s nosy but is your family Japanese? Otherwise I’m surprised they could use this! Looks great
- theNJR 5y agoDisplaying an NFT was my thought for it too. Gas fees were high at the time and so I never did anything there either.
- ardourdev 5y agoWhat is holographic about this? Can it display images at multiple depths?
- creativeembassy 5y agoEach of your two eyes only sees a 2d image, and your brain combining this information is what gives you depth. I'd say it's holographic in that each eye receives different information and you perceive depth when looking into it. If you're asking whether you can see multiple translucent layers, like a hologram from a movie or tv show, then I'd also say yes. But I'd warn that there's a 58 degree viewing angle in front that you can see the images from. You can't look at the sides (or back!) of the display and see anything, for that matter.
- kgarten 5y agoWas a backer and just got one and I am pretty impressed. It works as an external monitor so it seems quite easy to use. You plug in a USB-C (for power) and an HDMI and you are ready to go ... worked as a display for my linux and mac machine. Tried some unity demos and they worked like a charm. Will update you on how easy the programming is. Super impressed. If you have some questions, ask I might able to try things tomorrow. Also ideas for projects welcome ... we have some EDA and heartrate wristbands, so I first thought about displaying a pumping heart in sync with mine.
- spywaregorilla 5y agoThe astronaut in the looking glass in the main image is clearly not the same one as shown on the mac unity window.
- RobLach 5y agoSurprisingly inexpensive.
- john579 5y agoIt works outside in direct sunlight without any additional electronics besides a smartphone. Good luck beating an Android AR/VR app.