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Soda can make you fat and brown your teeth. It doesn't create addicts who destroy their lives over it. Soda doesn't kill people via Drunk Driving. Soda doesn't

Soda can make you fat and brown your teeth. It doesn't create addicts who destroy their lives over it. Soda doesn't kill people via Drunk Driving. Soda doesn't contribute to violent crimes and domestic violence.

kazinator 5y ago
That's right! "Might as well go for a soda; nobody hurts, nobody cries." - Kim Mitchell
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dmitryminkovsky 5y ago
It’s not fair to write off the harm caused by soda as just causing brown teeth and fatness and to then to juxtapose it with domestic violence and drunk driving. That’s a basic strawman, which I sought to exclude by carving out “alcohol abuse” in my OP. Because alcoholism is terrible, especially when it affects a close loved one, and was not the subject of my comment. Fortunately, the vast majority of people who consume alcohol are not alcoholics. But many people, if not most people in 2021 United States and other parts of the world are obese. Of course obesity is not alcohol-fueled domestic violence, but that’s obvious.
- goldenkey 5y ago
  The majority of people who consume alcohol are not alcoholics however the majority of people who consume soda ARE unhealthy. Quite the disparity yet the above posters are trying to use the parallel as a strawman.
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  Alcohol contributes to obesity as well though. Alcohol, like soda, is unhealthy to drink and it causes the more serious problems I alluded to previously.
  - goldenkey 5y ago
    Indeed but not in children. You're comparison is a red herring. Two things can be bad in different ways.
    - ALittleLight 5y ago
      Alcohol is very unhealthy for children as well. So toxic, in fact, it's illegal to sell alcohol to children or for them to consume it. Alcohol and soda are both drinks that cause health problems. There is nothing wrong with the observation that alcohol is considerably worse than soda.
      - goldenkey 5y ago
        There are laws prohibiting kids from getting access to or drinking alcohol. No such laws exist for soda. Soda has a huge negative impact on young children, whereas alcohol doesn't. I'm discontinuing this conversation as you clearly have maligned intentions as evident by your uncharitable interpretations of my points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity
abeppu 5y ago
I mean, I didn't come here to fight about soda, but metabolic disease is a real problem, and people do seriously consider whether the way our brains respond to sugar constitutes addiction. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/ Sugar doesn't contribute to violent crimes, but a coca cola bottling company in Colombia may have killed labor organizers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co.

kazinator 5y ago

That's right! "Might as well go for a soda; nobody hurts, nobody cries." - Kim Mitchell

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dmitryminkovsky 5y ago

It’s not fair to write off the harm caused by soda as just causing brown teeth and fatness and to then to juxtapose it with domestic violence and drunk driving. That’s a basic strawman, which I sought to exclude by carving out “alcohol abuse” in my OP. Because alcoholism is terrible, especially when it affects a close loved one, and was not the subject of my comment. Fortunately, the vast majority of people who consume alcohol are not alcoholics. But many people, if not most people in 2021 United States and other parts of the world are obese. Of course obesity is not alcohol-fueled domestic violence, but that’s obvious.

goldenkey 5y ago
The majority of people who consume alcohol are not alcoholics however the majority of people who consume soda ARE unhealthy. Quite the disparity yet the above posters are trying to use the parallel as a strawman.
ALittleLight 5y ago
Alcohol contributes to obesity as well though. Alcohol, like soda, is unhealthy to drink and it causes the more serious problems I alluded to previously.
- goldenkey 5y ago
  Indeed but not in children. You're comparison is a red herring. Two things can be bad in different ways.
  - ALittleLight 5y ago
    Alcohol is very unhealthy for children as well. So toxic, in fact, it's illegal to sell alcohol to children or for them to consume it. Alcohol and soda are both drinks that cause health problems. There is nothing wrong with the observation that alcohol is considerably worse than soda.
    - goldenkey 5y ago
      There are laws prohibiting kids from getting access to or drinking alcohol. No such laws exist for soda. Soda has a huge negative impact on young children, whereas alcohol doesn't. I'm discontinuing this conversation as you clearly have maligned intentions as evident by your uncharitable interpretations of my points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

abeppu 5y ago

I mean, I didn't come here to fight about soda, but metabolic disease is a real problem, and people do seriously consider whether the way our brains respond to sugar constitutes addiction. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/ Sugar doesn't contribute to violent crimes, but a coca cola bottling company in Colombia may have killed labor organizers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co.