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There's a difference between having 180k followers and having 0. Having 0 is painful because you tweet into nothingness. My observation comes from trying to get

by diego 15y ago

There's a difference between having 180k followers and having 0. Having 0 is painful because you tweet into nothingness. My observation comes from trying to get many of my friends started with Twitter, only to see that their tweets get lots in the continuously-scrolling timelines of the five of us who follow them back to get them started.

p4bl0 15y ago
No you don't tweet into nothingness: your feed is public which means that you can for instance show your last tweet on your blog/homepage/... and use twitter as a quick update tool for visitor of your blog/site/... Also, you can use hashtags to join a conversation (this is done better with groups in status.net). In the same time start to follow people who say things that interest you (news, links, personal update, event coverage...). If you're not interested in any of the use cases above, then why start using twitter at all?
- diego 15y ago
  First off, no reason to downvote me because you disagreed with my comment. My point is that if Twitter is trying to get past the point of people who do the things you say (savvy social media people) and cross into the Facebook mainstream, they need to give people easy ways to be heard. My post is from the point of view of the company, not the potential users. Why start using Twitter at all is exactly right, and a problem for Twitter.
  - p4bl0 15y ago
    I don't have the down arrow on comments that are replies to my submissions or comments, and anyway I wouldn't have downvoted you. I disagree with you but that doesn't mean your comment is stupid or anything, we are discussing and I see no reason to downvote you here (but I won't upvote you either, of course ;-)). About our discussion: I get your point, but I think that simply for the usage I described there are still a lot of people/company who can benefit from Twitter (or equivalent, like status.net).
  - lovskogen 15y ago
    Then make or add friends before starting. Twitter makes this crystal clear when you open an account. Respond to people, engage - it's not that big of a problem.

by diego 15y ago

p4bl0 15y ago

No you don't tweet into nothingness: your feed is public which means that you can for instance show your last tweet on your blog/homepage/... and use twitter as a quick update tool for visitor of your blog/site/... Also, you can use hashtags to join a conversation (this is done better with groups in status.net). In the same time start to follow people who say things that interest you (news, links, personal update, event coverage...). If you're not interested in any of the use cases above, then why start using twitter at all?

diego 15y ago
First off, no reason to downvote me because you disagreed with my comment. My point is that if Twitter is trying to get past the point of people who do the things you say (savvy social media people) and cross into the Facebook mainstream, they need to give people easy ways to be heard. My post is from the point of view of the company, not the potential users. Why start using Twitter at all is exactly right, and a problem for Twitter.
- p4bl0 15y ago
  I don't have the down arrow on comments that are replies to my submissions or comments, and anyway I wouldn't have downvoted you. I disagree with you but that doesn't mean your comment is stupid or anything, we are discussing and I see no reason to downvote you here (but I won't upvote you either, of course ;-)). About our discussion: I get your point, but I think that simply for the usage I described there are still a lot of people/company who can benefit from Twitter (or equivalent, like status.net).
- lovskogen 15y ago
  Then make or add friends before starting. Twitter makes this crystal clear when you open an account. Respond to people, engage - it's not that big of a problem.