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we are doomed!!

by happppy 5y ago

we are doomed!!

jneumann004 5y ago
The worst part is that we've known we were doomed for over a hundred years.
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- go_elmo 5y ago
  steadily confirms my hypothesis that humanity is "too stupid" to stop this, we will destroy ourselves like yeast producing too high alcohol concentrations. Evolution just didn't had to optimize for this, making us "stupid" as a society / species. Of course it starts now, but there is just too little time - the differential equation tipped too fast. Might also be the solution to the great filter: Once optimization for the hard problem of "supremacy" / massive expansion is solved, there is too little time to optimize for self-regulation. There sure are possibilities to solve this, but require huge amounts of luck, e.g. discovering clean & especially cheaply salable energy sources quickly enough, adding another tiny coefficient to the drake equation
  - FalconSensei 5y ago
    > e.g. discovering clean & especially cheaply salable energy sources quickly enough In our case, it's also a matter of actually using what we discover vs continue using petroleum
    - go_elmo 5y ago
      Yes, thats what I would count under behavioral / "stupidity", but if we had a source that is cheaper than petroleum already, e.g. SMR fusion we would automatically stop using fossils
  - samstave 5y ago
    I like the theory that Humanity is more like a fungus / parasite.... However, whats super interesting to watch unfold is that as we hit this "peak climate" phase - all the other things that are happening around it, FN UAP/UFO sightings and semi-disclosure is unprecedented... and clearly they have some sort of zero-point or better energy capabilities... and just the general shift (albeit slowly) in global awareness on a myriad of matters... While there is a subtle subtext of Dread in the zeitgeist, I still feel optimistic... aside from the overall global oligarch-parasite-class, which I hope we figure out a solution to... I'm still waiting for silicon valley to "make the world a better place" - each time I attempt to contribute to that, it kind of backfires on me... hopefully I can change that.
    - go_elmo 5y ago
      True, the capabilities & behavior of humanity will only really show when it gets "hard". If civilization & economy can hold up long enough to make massive efforts to recapture it could work. Im more realistic & think big powers will start to geoingineer to fight the symptoms while everything gets worse, but lets see & work for the best...
      - samstave 5y ago
        Totally agree with this sentiment... the Geo-engineering is in full swing... I do find the DEWs intriguing, as the footage of them sparking off fires in CA are pretty compelling, but not entirely believable.... I find the massive floodings in Germany, Belgium and also China to be very interesting... It was already stated many times regarding the chinese using weather modification to create effectively what we referred to as "acid rain" in the 1980s - in an effort to sequester particulate pollution in some cities -- there are several possibilities: 1. Freak 10,000-year flooding 2. Weather warfare via HAARP or such 3. Weather modification fuckup gone awry (or intentional) 4. We broke the weather system some time ago and weather modification and technologies such as HAARP are being used in a failed attempt to fix the weather system. (I love this science fiction take on it, personally)
        go_elmo 5y ago
earthtolazlo 5y ago
That seems like a reasonable assessment of the situation. I don’t know what it is with HN and absurd contrarian takes.

we are doomed!!

jneumann004 5y ago

The worst part is that we've known we were doomed for over a hundred years.

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go_elmo 5y ago
steadily confirms my hypothesis that humanity is "too stupid" to stop this, we will destroy ourselves like yeast producing too high alcohol concentrations. Evolution just didn't had to optimize for this, making us "stupid" as a society / species. Of course it starts now, but there is just too little time - the differential equation tipped too fast. Might also be the solution to the great filter: Once optimization for the hard problem of "supremacy" / massive expansion is solved, there is too little time to optimize for self-regulation. There sure are possibilities to solve this, but require huge amounts of luck, e.g. discovering clean & especially cheaply salable energy sources quickly enough, adding another tiny coefficient to the drake equation
- FalconSensei 5y ago
  > e.g. discovering clean & especially cheaply salable energy sources quickly enough In our case, it's also a matter of actually using what we discover vs continue using petroleum
  - go_elmo 5y ago
    Yes, thats what I would count under behavioral / "stupidity", but if we had a source that is cheaper than petroleum already, e.g. SMR fusion we would automatically stop using fossils
- samstave 5y ago
  I like the theory that Humanity is more like a fungus / parasite.... However, whats super interesting to watch unfold is that as we hit this "peak climate" phase - all the other things that are happening around it, FN UAP/UFO sightings and semi-disclosure is unprecedented... and clearly they have some sort of zero-point or better energy capabilities... and just the general shift (albeit slowly) in global awareness on a myriad of matters... While there is a subtle subtext of Dread in the zeitgeist, I still feel optimistic... aside from the overall global oligarch-parasite-class, which I hope we figure out a solution to... I'm still waiting for silicon valley to "make the world a better place" - each time I attempt to contribute to that, it kind of backfires on me... hopefully I can change that.
  - go_elmo 5y ago
    True, the capabilities & behavior of humanity will only really show when it gets "hard". If civilization & economy can hold up long enough to make massive efforts to recapture it could work. Im more realistic & think big powers will start to geoingineer to fight the symptoms while everything gets worse, but lets see & work for the best...
    - samstave 5y ago
      Totally agree with this sentiment... the Geo-engineering is in full swing... I do find the DEWs intriguing, as the footage of them sparking off fires in CA are pretty compelling, but not entirely believable.... I find the massive floodings in Germany, Belgium and also China to be very interesting... It was already stated many times regarding the chinese using weather modification to create effectively what we referred to as "acid rain" in the 1980s - in an effort to sequester particulate pollution in some cities -- there are several possibilities: 1. Freak 10,000-year flooding 2. Weather warfare via HAARP or such 3. Weather modification fuckup gone awry (or intentional) 4. We broke the weather system some time ago and weather modification and technologies such as HAARP are being used in a failed attempt to fix the weather system. (I love this science fiction take on it, personally)
      - go_elmo 5y ago

earthtolazlo 5y ago

That seems like a reasonable assessment of the situation. I don’t know what it is with HN and absurd contrarian takes.