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I am weary of this newspaper's reporting - they wage a continual war on the NHS, and they seem to have some writers paid to continually put out negative news on

by dm319 5y ago

I am weary of this newspaper's reporting - they wage a continual war on the NHS, and they seem to have some writers paid to continually put out negative news on the NHS. Two points: 1. COVID-19 is the most thrombogenic infectious disease known to man. It likely has a serious impact on co-morbidities in a way that hasn't been clearly studied yet. This means it's likely to exacerbate current conditions. 2. Hospitals are full in the UK at the moment. It's not COVID numbers, but it's not clear what is causing this. Normally at this time in the year bed occupancy is low and elective surgical work can proceed, but at the moment elective lists are being cancelled due to full ITUs.

robocat 5y ago
> Hospitals are full in the UK at the moment. New Zealand hospitals have been in “crisis” pretty much all year, and we have no Covid. Currently it is due to a respiratory virus called RSV, but there were severe problems in other months too, not due to RSV. https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=nz+hospitals+overrun+OR+crisis+OR+overloaded https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=nz+hospitals+overrun+OR+cr...
- dm319 5y ago
  Yes, I think other (non-covid) infectious diseases are partly to blame. They also have a knock on effect for other conditions like coronary heart disease, COPD and dementia, etc.
- johnnyApplePRNG 5y ago
  Could it be as simple as baby boomers ageing?
  - robocat 5y ago
    Well, the RSV problem affects babies the worst. I have a friend who’s baby is in hospital due to RSV: very worrying. https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/respiratory-syncytial-virus-rsv https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatm... Note that one theory is that the RSV wave is due to relaxing rules on contact, hand cleaning, and mask usage.
polytely 5y ago
2. Isn't that from all the rescheduled surgeries and such? I know that here in the Netherlands there is still a huge backlog of care that couldn't happen when the hospitals were full, that has to be caught up on.
- dm319 5y ago
  Sadly the rescheduled care is getting cancelled due to lack of ITU beds for post-surgery. I don't know what's going, but there seems to be a backlog of complaints that people are only now getting investigated, and with increased social mixing I guess infectious diseases are going up. Still, it's a bit strange to be this overwhelmed at this time if year.
native_samples 5y ago
I think you're reversing cause and effect. The NHS constantly generates a flow of negative news that other outlets mostly suppress. The Telegraph does this less so than others, so it may appear to be "waging a war" on it but in reality it's just showing what others would have you not know.

by dm319 5y ago

robocat 5y ago

> Hospitals are full in the UK at the moment. New Zealand hospitals have been in “crisis” pretty much all year, and we have no Covid. Currently it is due to a respiratory virus called RSV, but there were severe problems in other months too, not due to RSV. https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=nz+hospitals+overrun+OR+crisis+OR+overloaded https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=nz+hospitals+overrun+OR+cr...

dm319 5y ago
Yes, I think other (non-covid) infectious diseases are partly to blame. They also have a knock on effect for other conditions like coronary heart disease, COPD and dementia, etc.
johnnyApplePRNG 5y ago
Could it be as simple as baby boomers ageing?
- robocat 5y ago
  Well, the RSV problem affects babies the worst. I have a friend who’s baby is in hospital due to RSV: very worrying. https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/respiratory-syncytial-virus-rsv https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatm... Note that one theory is that the RSV wave is due to relaxing rules on contact, hand cleaning, and mask usage.

polytely 5y ago

2. Isn't that from all the rescheduled surgeries and such? I know that here in the Netherlands there is still a huge backlog of care that couldn't happen when the hospitals were full, that has to be caught up on.

dm319 5y ago
Sadly the rescheduled care is getting cancelled due to lack of ITU beds for post-surgery. I don't know what's going, but there seems to be a backlog of complaints that people are only now getting investigated, and with increased social mixing I guess infectious diseases are going up. Still, it's a bit strange to be this overwhelmed at this time if year.

native_samples 5y ago

I think you're reversing cause and effect. The NHS constantly generates a flow of negative news that other outlets mostly suppress. The Telegraph does this less so than others, so it may appear to be "waging a war" on it but in reality it's just showing what others would have you not know.