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> Driving 600km in a day would be difficult if it requires a mid-day charge and a parking space near a charger at night. I regularly did a (570mi)918km trip (

> Driving 600km in a day would be difficult if it requires a mid-day charge and a parking space near a charger at night. I regularly did a (570mi)918km trip (Atlanta to Jelico and back) in one day in my Tesla Model 3. It took 2-3 stops totally about an hour charge time.

nicbou 5y ago
That's fine if the infrastructure is there, and your range isn't diminishes by temperature. It's honestly acceptable for many people. It doesn't really suit my needs (I venture further out), but I concede that plenty of people would be just fine with this.
- cptskippy 5y ago
  > It's honestly acceptable for many people. The reality is that it's acceptable for the majority of people. Many families could replace both vehicles with an EV, most families could replace one vehicle with an EV. The sentiment that's perpetuated that "it wouldn't work for me" needs to die. Yes there are people and scenarios where it wouldn't work, and unfortunately those boundary conditions are being touted vocally and negatively shaping public sentiment. If public sentiment were to shift strongly in favor of EV transition, it would still take decades and companies would actively start looking for solutions to the boundary conditions but as long as a vocal minority is online saying "this will never work for me" then there's always going to be push back slowing or stifling adoption. Everyone who feels the urge to standup and say "no, this won't work for me" either needs to engage in find a solution that will or just sit down and shut up.
  - emodendroket 5y ago
    That's a little more forceful but I think you're exactly right. Every time someone proposes anything to ameliorate the situation at all we have to hear from fifty people who specifically need a daily allotment of 100 disposable plastic straws and no car but a Hummer will do for them. There's always _someone_ who's being inconvenienced so we can't do anything but just keep doing the same thing over and over even though we know it's not sustainable.
    - cptskippy 5y ago
      > That's a little more forceful Yes, it's very much intentional. I've grown tied if being nice and trying to have thoughtful conversations with naysayers who have no interest in honest discussion.
      - emodendroket 5y ago
        If there's one thing this neverending coronavirus crisis had demonstrated to me it's that occasionally we need a stronger hand to push aside everyone's petty wants and preferences.

nicbou 5y ago

That's fine if the infrastructure is there, and your range isn't diminishes by temperature. It's honestly acceptable for many people. It doesn't really suit my needs (I venture further out), but I concede that plenty of people would be just fine with this.

cptskippy 5y ago
> It's honestly acceptable for many people. The reality is that it's acceptable for the majority of people. Many families could replace both vehicles with an EV, most families could replace one vehicle with an EV. The sentiment that's perpetuated that "it wouldn't work for me" needs to die. Yes there are people and scenarios where it wouldn't work, and unfortunately those boundary conditions are being touted vocally and negatively shaping public sentiment. If public sentiment were to shift strongly in favor of EV transition, it would still take decades and companies would actively start looking for solutions to the boundary conditions but as long as a vocal minority is online saying "this will never work for me" then there's always going to be push back slowing or stifling adoption. Everyone who feels the urge to standup and say "no, this won't work for me" either needs to engage in find a solution that will or just sit down and shut up.
- emodendroket 5y ago
  That's a little more forceful but I think you're exactly right. Every time someone proposes anything to ameliorate the situation at all we have to hear from fifty people who specifically need a daily allotment of 100 disposable plastic straws and no car but a Hummer will do for them. There's always _someone_ who's being inconvenienced so we can't do anything but just keep doing the same thing over and over even though we know it's not sustainable.
  - cptskippy 5y ago
    > That's a little more forceful Yes, it's very much intentional. I've grown tied if being nice and trying to have thoughtful conversations with naysayers who have no interest in honest discussion.
    - emodendroket 5y ago
      If there's one thing this neverending coronavirus crisis had demonstrated to me it's that occasionally we need a stronger hand to push aside everyone's petty wants and preferences.