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Is the Telegraph a paper of good repute? The article feels to me as somehow manipulative however I'm not local to the UK. I am wondering if this is propaganda

Is the Telegraph a paper of good repute? The article feels to me as somehow manipulative however I'm not local to the UK. I am wondering if this is propaganda or if these results are actually plausible.

bananapub 5y ago
it's historically a reasonable newspaper but lately is extremely closely aligned with the ruling Tory party and their desires, to the point of everyone reading the online edition on Sundays to see what will be announced by the government on Monday.
- doesnotexist 5y ago
  Didn't The Telegraph endorse Boris Johnson? I'm not super well versed in UK politics, but as Prime Minister Boris Johnson is also the "Leader of the Conservative Party" right? And the Tory party merged with another party to form the Conservative party so are they now a wing or subset of the Conservative Party? Is Boris Johnson in the Tory subset?
  - rjknight 5y ago
    "Tory" is just a colloquial term for "member or supporter of the Conservative party". It started out as an insult a couple of centuries ago, but has long since lost that association. The Telegraph didn't just endorse Boris Johnson - he worked for the paper back in the 1990s, and after resigning his position as Foreign Secretary in 2018, he wrote regular columns for them.
    - mandmandam 5y ago
      Tory is still an insult in Ireland. Probably Scotland too.
  - skywhopper 5y ago
    That happened 150 years ago. Today, “Tory” is another name for a member of the Conservative Party.
jjgreen 5y ago
It's a Tory (conservative) paper and always has been, traditional or reactionary depending on your point of view. Not sensationalist. The Irish comic Dave Allen characterised the British press as follows: One of the things about Britain, actually: you can always tell the way a person votes by the paper they read. For example, The Times is read by people who run the country. The Financial Times is read by people who own the country. The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who own and run the country. The Daily Mirror is read by the people who think they run the country. The Guardian is read by people who think that they should run the country. The Morning Star, or as it used to be known as, the Daily Worker is read by people who think that the country should be run by another country. The Daily Express is read by people who think that the country should be run as it was. The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think that it still is. And The Sun is read by people who don’t care who rules the country as long as they’ve got big boobs. You get the idea
- hackeraccount 5y ago
  Wasn't that in Yes, Minister? Or was it a shorter version... it's been awhile since I saw that show but that's almost the only joke a remember distinctly. Oh, that and the line, "If you want to stab someone in the back you first need to get behind them," which I reference not infrequently.
  - iggldiggl 5y ago
    It was, but it wasn't the original source of that quote. Someone tried tracking down the source here: http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2021/04/what-the-papers-say/ http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2021/04/what-the-papers-say/
BoxOfRain 5y ago
It's a mainstream paper and it's pretty good by the standards of the British press. It's got a right-wing slant but that's not a bad thing in and of itself, it's not sensationalist in the same way the tabloids are. It's been more overtly Tory (in contrast with small-c conservative) over the last few years but I suspect that has a lot to do with our current Prime Minister having once been on their payroll as a journalist. I tend to read a range of ideological slants when it comes to the British press, I find the Telegraph's and the Guardian's takes to be the most interesting of the bunch usually.
alimw 5y ago
This is a newspaper that decides what the news is going to be and then goes out to find the sources to support that.
rsynnott 5y ago
I mean, it employed Boris Johnson as a columnist; you do the maths. More seriously, it's a bit of an oddity, really; it's a broadsheet under the normal classification, but certainly has tabloid-y elements.

bananapub 5y ago

it's historically a reasonable newspaper but lately is extremely closely aligned with the ruling Tory party and their desires, to the point of everyone reading the online edition on Sundays to see what will be announced by the government on Monday.

doesnotexist 5y ago
Didn't The Telegraph endorse Boris Johnson? I'm not super well versed in UK politics, but as Prime Minister Boris Johnson is also the "Leader of the Conservative Party" right? And the Tory party merged with another party to form the Conservative party so are they now a wing or subset of the Conservative Party? Is Boris Johnson in the Tory subset?
- rjknight 5y ago
  "Tory" is just a colloquial term for "member or supporter of the Conservative party". It started out as an insult a couple of centuries ago, but has long since lost that association. The Telegraph didn't just endorse Boris Johnson - he worked for the paper back in the 1990s, and after resigning his position as Foreign Secretary in 2018, he wrote regular columns for them.
  - mandmandam 5y ago
    Tory is still an insult in Ireland. Probably Scotland too.
- skywhopper 5y ago
  That happened 150 years ago. Today, “Tory” is another name for a member of the Conservative Party.

jjgreen 5y ago

It's a Tory (conservative) paper and always has been, traditional or reactionary depending on your point of view. Not sensationalist. The Irish comic Dave Allen characterised the British press as follows: One of the things about Britain, actually: you can always tell the way a person votes by the paper they read. For example, The Times is read by people who run the country. The Financial Times is read by people who own the country. The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who own and run the country. The Daily Mirror is read by the people who think they run the country. The Guardian is read by people who think that they should run the country. The Morning Star, or as it used to be known as, the Daily Worker is read by people who think that the country should be run by another country. The Daily Express is read by people who think that the country should be run as it was. The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think that it still is. And The Sun is read by people who don’t care who rules the country as long as they’ve got big boobs. You get the idea

hackeraccount 5y ago
Wasn't that in Yes, Minister? Or was it a shorter version... it's been awhile since I saw that show but that's almost the only joke a remember distinctly. Oh, that and the line, "If you want to stab someone in the back you first need to get behind them," which I reference not infrequently.
- iggldiggl 5y ago
  It was, but it wasn't the original source of that quote. Someone tried tracking down the source here: http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2021/04/what-the-papers-say/ http://www.dirtyfeed.org/2021/04/what-the-papers-say/

BoxOfRain 5y ago

It's a mainstream paper and it's pretty good by the standards of the British press. It's got a right-wing slant but that's not a bad thing in and of itself, it's not sensationalist in the same way the tabloids are. It's been more overtly Tory (in contrast with small-c conservative) over the last few years but I suspect that has a lot to do with our current Prime Minister having once been on their payroll as a journalist. I tend to read a range of ideological slants when it comes to the British press, I find the Telegraph's and the Guardian's takes to be the most interesting of the bunch usually.

alimw 5y ago

This is a newspaper that decides what the news is going to be and then goes out to find the sources to support that.

rsynnott 5y ago

I mean, it employed Boris Johnson as a columnist; you do the maths. More seriously, it's a bit of an oddity, really; it's a broadsheet under the normal classification, but certainly has tabloid-y elements.