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Sex existed (and made people obsessed) before mass media.

by goto11 5y ago

ekster 5y ago
> Sex existed before mass media Reading the comment you are replying to, I don’t think they were trying to say it didn’t, but that it’s different now (for the reasons they enumerated)
- goto11 5y ago
  I push back against this statement: > People wouldn't be addicted to sex if the media wasn't shoving it down your throat Just read the Illiad to see how sexual obsessions have driven people since the dawn of history.
rockbruno 5y ago
While probably true at some extent for adults, I don't think 14 year old kids were masturbating 24/7 in medieval times. The situation is definitely worse today
DeusExMachina 5y ago
Pervasive sexually explicit imagery definitely didn't.
- zero_billion 5y ago
  not just imagery, but high definition videos that mimic reality with VR headsets etc.
- _game_of_life 5y ago
  I have some ancient greek pottery that would VIGOROUSLY disagree with you. Also fertility statutes. Also a mural I got from Kanamara Matsuri (Japanese penis festival) last year. Pervasive sexually explicit (by today's standards) imagery most definitely has existed to varying degrees throughout antiquity. I like the idea of an app to help porn addiction though. People can become addicted to anything, and another tool in the toolbelt for those people is nice and wholesome IMO.
  - DeusExMachina 5y ago
    > I have some ancient greek pottery that would VIGOROUSLY disagree with you. Also fertility statutes. a) Those are not pervasive at all. Pottery and statues are expensive and slow to produce and are found only in specific places. b) Those are all low-level representations with a totally different purpose. A fertility statue is not comparable to a constant stream of young girls in bikini on Instagram. "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing.
    - _game_of_life 5y ago
      > "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing I have a room full of phallic statues from various tribes that proves this wrong. Also I don't know how familiar you are with fertility statues, but a lot of them actually function as dildos too. And you can DEFINITELY get addicted to those!
    - goto11 5y ago
      > "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing. How do you know? I'm not asking rhetorically, I'm genuinely curious how you know this. We do have ancient myths about people falling in love with statues.

Sex existed (and made people obsessed) before mass media.

by goto11 5y ago

Sex existed (and made people obsessed) before mass media.

> Sex existed before mass media Reading the comment you are replying to, I don’t think they were trying to say it didn’t, but that it’s different now (for the reasons they enumerated)

goto11 5y ago
I push back against this statement: > People wouldn't be addicted to sex if the media wasn't shoving it down your throat Just read the Illiad to see how sexual obsessions have driven people since the dawn of history.

rockbruno 5y ago

While probably true at some extent for adults, I don't think 14 year old kids were masturbating 24/7 in medieval times. The situation is definitely worse today

DeusExMachina 5y ago

Pervasive sexually explicit imagery definitely didn't.

zero_billion 5y ago
not just imagery, but high definition videos that mimic reality with VR headsets etc.
_game_of_life 5y ago
I have some ancient greek pottery that would VIGOROUSLY disagree with you. Also fertility statutes. Also a mural I got from Kanamara Matsuri (Japanese penis festival) last year. Pervasive sexually explicit (by today's standards) imagery most definitely has existed to varying degrees throughout antiquity. I like the idea of an app to help porn addiction though. People can become addicted to anything, and another tool in the toolbelt for those people is nice and wholesome IMO.
- DeusExMachina 5y ago
  > I have some ancient greek pottery that would VIGOROUSLY disagree with you. Also fertility statutes. a) Those are not pervasive at all. Pottery and statues are expensive and slow to produce and are found only in specific places. b) Those are all low-level representations with a totally different purpose. A fertility statue is not comparable to a constant stream of young girls in bikini on Instagram. "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing.
  - _game_of_life 5y ago
    > "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing I have a room full of phallic statues from various tribes that proves this wrong. Also I don't know how familiar you are with fertility statues, but a lot of them actually function as dildos too. And you can DEFINITELY get addicted to those!
  - goto11 5y ago
    > "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing. How do you know? I'm not asking rhetorically, I'm genuinely curious how you know this. We do have ancient myths about people falling in love with statues.