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2021 Recovery Of Great Barrier Reef Coral Cover

49 points by chewz 5y ago

flxfxp 5y ago
Screw the Australian government from blocking the Great Barrier Reef to be put on the UNESCO world heritage list.
- IntelMiner 5y ago
  The Australian government is a nauseating lobbyist front for fossil fuels and oligarchs like Rupert Murdoch and Gerry Harvey It is my sincerest hope that by some miracle we finally turf them out. The way they've swung from disaster to disaster hopefully left enough of an imprint of how much of a despicable failure they really are
re-al 5y ago
Well, this news is no good! The great barrier reef needs to die to provide justification for all the climate change stuff!
- dang 5y ago
  Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments to HN? We ban that sort of account because we're trying for something other than internet default here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
partomniscient 5y ago
This is the government scraping the barrel to find any positive spin it can regarding the reef. Now there's more global attention, it might be worth reminding/informing others of fairly recent government involvement regarding the Great Barrier Reef: [1] The Great Barrier Reef Foundation board has strong ties to fossil fuel interests, it has six full-time staff, it is set up as a "charity" and its main function appears to be to reallocate money to other organisations. Its operations are not subject to environmental regulations under any state or Commonwealth legislation and if the Foundation contributes to a major environmental disaster, it can be wound up and its members (directors) are each liable to a maximum of $100 towards any outstanding obligations. The unsolicited allocation of $444 million to this shop-front venture appears to have been made without discussion, legitimate tender or evaluation. [1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/turnbull-defends-cash-to-reef-foundation/10070556 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/turnbull-defends-cash...
- jtbayly 5y ago
  Is your contention that it's not good news that bleaching is down and coverage is up substantially? Or that those claims are untrue? Or what?
  - edoceo 5y ago
    Contention is that Gov and Agency have less than stellar credentials and the Org has board members that don't, on the face of it, seem aligned with saving the reef (because their interest in BigOil)
  - mythrwy 5y ago
    My question as well. I read it a bit like "well SHE was seen in a bar last Saturday so her account of the car accident is scarcely believable".
  - partomniscient 5y ago
    It's good news that bleaching is down and coverage is up, but that's generally going to be the case after a mass bleaching event if the whole reef hasn't died. One however has to assume UNESCO didn't attempt to list it as endangered for kicks. The very recent recovery is great, but we should still be concerned with the reefs long-term health. You're talking about a country where even the weathermen have been infiltrated. [1] They've also been fighting tooth and nail against any scrutiny trying to pass law to make it basically meaningless to even attempt investigation without prior proof of guilt [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qOoIexcps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qOoIexcps [2] https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/05/proposed-federal-icac-wont-be-able-to-prevent-corruption-critics-say https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/05/propo...
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  I've become profoundly cynical about big non-profit organizations. Not all non-profits are bad, of course, but it really seems like the bigger the organization the more likely it is that the organization operates like a front.

49 points by chewz 5y ago

flxfxp 5y ago

Screw the Australian government from blocking the Great Barrier Reef to be put on the UNESCO world heritage list.

IntelMiner 5y ago
The Australian government is a nauseating lobbyist front for fossil fuels and oligarchs like Rupert Murdoch and Gerry Harvey It is my sincerest hope that by some miracle we finally turf them out. The way they've swung from disaster to disaster hopefully left enough of an imprint of how much of a despicable failure they really are

re-al 5y ago

Well, this news is no good! The great barrier reef needs to die to provide justification for all the climate change stuff!

dang 5y ago
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments to HN? We ban that sort of account because we're trying for something other than internet default here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

partomniscient 5y ago

This is the government scraping the barrel to find any positive spin it can regarding the reef. Now there's more global attention, it might be worth reminding/informing others of fairly recent government involvement regarding the Great Barrier Reef: [1] The Great Barrier Reef Foundation board has strong ties to fossil fuel interests, it has six full-time staff, it is set up as a "charity" and its main function appears to be to reallocate money to other organisations. Its operations are not subject to environmental regulations under any state or Commonwealth legislation and if the Foundation contributes to a major environmental disaster, it can be wound up and its members (directors) are each liable to a maximum of $100 towards any outstanding obligations. The unsolicited allocation of $444 million to this shop-front venture appears to have been made without discussion, legitimate tender or evaluation. [1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/turnbull-defends-cash-to-reef-foundation/10070556 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/turnbull-defends-cash...

jtbayly 5y ago
Is your contention that it's not good news that bleaching is down and coverage is up substantially? Or that those claims are untrue? Or what?
- edoceo 5y ago
  Contention is that Gov and Agency have less than stellar credentials and the Org has board members that don't, on the face of it, seem aligned with saving the reef (because their interest in BigOil)
- mythrwy 5y ago
  My question as well. I read it a bit like "well SHE was seen in a bar last Saturday so her account of the car accident is scarcely believable".
- partomniscient 5y ago
  It's good news that bleaching is down and coverage is up, but that's generally going to be the case after a mass bleaching event if the whole reef hasn't died. One however has to assume UNESCO didn't attempt to list it as endangered for kicks. The very recent recovery is great, but we should still be concerned with the reefs long-term health. You're talking about a country where even the weathermen have been infiltrated. [1] They've also been fighting tooth and nail against any scrutiny trying to pass law to make it basically meaningless to even attempt investigation without prior proof of guilt [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qOoIexcps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qOoIexcps [2] https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/05/proposed-federal-icac-wont-be-able-to-prevent-corruption-critics-say https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/05/propo...
BitwiseFool 5y ago
I've become profoundly cynical about big non-profit organizations. Not all non-profits are bad, of course, but it really seems like the bigger the organization the more likely it is that the organization operates like a front.