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I think you forgot the /s at the end of your statement. IDF is best known for fighting defensive wars from aggressive arab armies. More info: https://en.wikipe

by Zhenya 5y ago

I think you forgot the /s at the end of your statement. IDF is best known for fighting defensive wars from aggressive arab armies. More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces Additionally they are known for rescue operations. A few examples below: -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Moses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Moses -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Magic_Carpet_(Yemen) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Magic_Carpet_(Yemen) They are also known for civilian rescue operations: -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe Finally, they are considered one of the best trained, most humane armies in the world. It's literally in their mission statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_of_arms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_of_arms Examples: roof knocks -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking

gjs278 5y ago
how much do you get paid to post this
sdasarter5634 5y ago
> Examples: roof knocks -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking I am sorry but in what world does purposefully bombing civilians mean they are one of the "most humane armies in the world". The defense of "but we are only using little bombs to bomb civilians" is almost beyond parody.
- Zhenya 5y ago
  They are not bombing people, they are warning them (and also calling and texting them) to get out so that thee are no/limited civilian casualties and only the infra is destroyed which is housing rockets etc
  - radycov 5y ago
    Sure, how about I drop a 30 second "door knock" before I blow your life to smithereens because I feel like your 10 story building might be hiding a few kalashnikovs? Feel free to evacuate to the few hundred meters of free space in the world's largest open air prison. The simple fact is: this is colonialist ethnic cleansing and the only reason it goes unchecked is because of historic Western guilt uncritically favouring the Israeli state for geopolitical reasons.
    - mustafa_pasi 5y ago
      > the only reason it goes unchecked is because of historic Western guilt uncritically favouring the Israeli state for geopolitical reasons. That is not true. It is the US alone whose conscience is tarnished. If it wasn't for the US, I am sure the rest of the developed world would not stand for such injustice.
      - pmyteh 5y ago
        Nope. The UK also has plenty of tarnished conscience (we were the mandate holder for Palestine immediately before the creation of Israel and played communities against each other, as we normally did in our colonies). The French also played their dishonourable part in carving up the middle east with us. Plenty of guilt to go around.
      - skinkestek 5y ago
        A growing number of Europeans are also getting their eyes up for the fact that it has been one small democracy (kind of) against a whole region of warlords propped up by oil money from the gulf. It used to be for years that newspapers only wrote "Israel bombed". Now they write "Israel bombed [...] after days of rocket attacs". Hopefully it will soon be: "After days of unprovoked attacks Israel demolished weapons". At that point maybe we can get UN soldiers on the ground to catch the torturists and warmongers in Gaza and elsewhere, get rid of the rockets, restart schools with a curriculum that doesn't include death wishes for their closest neigbours etc. Well, one can dream. Here is a very short joke: the UN.
    - sdasarter5634 5y ago
redis_mlc 5y ago
The parent is largely correct. In addition, Iran is financing and using Gaza as a proxy war with Israel. I wouldn't call the IDF "100% humane", as they deliberately shoot reporters, but they are fighting a defensive war to avoid being pushed into the sea - there is no peace treaty with their neighbors. Arab countries have had decades to offer to resetttle Palestinians and Uighurs, but not a peep.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  > I wouldn't call the IDF "100% humane", as they deliberately shoot reporters, sources? > Arab countries have had decades to offer to resetttle Palestinians and Uighurs, but not a peep. Also remember that far more jews have been chased from their homes in lands around Israel than Arabs from within Israel, the major difference being that Israel integrated its own people instead of abusing them as a living pawn in a horrible game. Also remember that Israel tried to get Arabs to stay but they were convinced by their own to leave to make "cleansing" the area easier in 1948.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    Anyone who'd like to tell me what I got wrong?
    - redis_mlc 5y ago
      1) IDF "kneecaps" reporters (shoots them in the knees) to get them out of their way. This has been reported for decades. 2) The SJWs, regardless of side, refuse to recognize there is a war. Protesting isn't going to solve anything since neither side has anywhere to go. 3) There was plenty of media coverage of Iran involvement recently. Again, if you're a SJW and don't know that, you're misguided. https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/irans-role-in-the-latest-gaza-conflict/ https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/irans-role-in-the-latest-g... https://thehill.com/opinion/international/555594-irans-destabilizing-role-has-been-exposed-in-gaza https://thehill.com/opinion/international/555594-irans-desta...
      - 5y ago

by Zhenya 5y ago

gjs278 5y ago

how much do you get paid to post this

sdasarter5634 5y ago

> Examples: roof knocks -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking I am sorry but in what world does purposefully bombing civilians mean they are one of the "most humane armies in the world". The defense of "but we are only using little bombs to bomb civilians" is almost beyond parody.

Zhenya 5y ago
They are not bombing people, they are warning them (and also calling and texting them) to get out so that thee are no/limited civilian casualties and only the infra is destroyed which is housing rockets etc
- radycov 5y ago
  Sure, how about I drop a 30 second "door knock" before I blow your life to smithereens because I feel like your 10 story building might be hiding a few kalashnikovs? Feel free to evacuate to the few hundred meters of free space in the world's largest open air prison. The simple fact is: this is colonialist ethnic cleansing and the only reason it goes unchecked is because of historic Western guilt uncritically favouring the Israeli state for geopolitical reasons.
  - mustafa_pasi 5y ago
    > the only reason it goes unchecked is because of historic Western guilt uncritically favouring the Israeli state for geopolitical reasons. That is not true. It is the US alone whose conscience is tarnished. If it wasn't for the US, I am sure the rest of the developed world would not stand for such injustice.
    - pmyteh 5y ago
      Nope. The UK also has plenty of tarnished conscience (we were the mandate holder for Palestine immediately before the creation of Israel and played communities against each other, as we normally did in our colonies). The French also played their dishonourable part in carving up the middle east with us. Plenty of guilt to go around.
    - skinkestek 5y ago
      A growing number of Europeans are also getting their eyes up for the fact that it has been one small democracy (kind of) against a whole region of warlords propped up by oil money from the gulf. It used to be for years that newspapers only wrote "Israel bombed". Now they write "Israel bombed [...] after days of rocket attacs". Hopefully it will soon be: "After days of unprovoked attacks Israel demolished weapons". At that point maybe we can get UN soldiers on the ground to catch the torturists and warmongers in Gaza and elsewhere, get rid of the rockets, restart schools with a curriculum that doesn't include death wishes for their closest neigbours etc. Well, one can dream. Here is a very short joke: the UN.
  - sdasarter5634 5y ago

redis_mlc 5y ago

The parent is largely correct. In addition, Iran is financing and using Gaza as a proxy war with Israel. I wouldn't call the IDF "100% humane", as they deliberately shoot reporters, but they are fighting a defensive war to avoid being pushed into the sea - there is no peace treaty with their neighbors. Arab countries have had decades to offer to resetttle Palestinians and Uighurs, but not a peep.

skinkestek 5y ago
> I wouldn't call the IDF "100% humane", as they deliberately shoot reporters, sources? > Arab countries have had decades to offer to resetttle Palestinians and Uighurs, but not a peep. Also remember that far more jews have been chased from their homes in lands around Israel than Arabs from within Israel, the major difference being that Israel integrated its own people instead of abusing them as a living pawn in a horrible game. Also remember that Israel tried to get Arabs to stay but they were convinced by their own to leave to make "cleansing" the area easier in 1948.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  Anyone who'd like to tell me what I got wrong?
  - redis_mlc 5y ago
    1) IDF "kneecaps" reporters (shoots them in the knees) to get them out of their way. This has been reported for decades. 2) The SJWs, regardless of side, refuse to recognize there is a war. Protesting isn't going to solve anything since neither side has anywhere to go. 3) There was plenty of media coverage of Iran involvement recently. Again, if you're a SJW and don't know that, you're misguided. https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/irans-role-in-the-latest-gaza-conflict/ https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/irans-role-in-the-latest-g... https://thehill.com/opinion/international/555594-irans-destabilizing-role-has-been-exposed-in-gaza https://thehill.com/opinion/international/555594-irans-desta...
    - 5y ago