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> They are gunning for monopoly. No shame in that. It is pretty shameful if you’re simultaneously claiming to be the biggest defender of the open web. > Why p

by jolux 5y ago

> They are gunning for monopoly. No shame in that. It is pretty shameful if you’re simultaneously claiming to be the biggest defender of the open web. > Why put in the effort It’s pretty clear why at this point: developers hate them and antitrust regulators are looking for the right opportunity to go for the throat. Apple screwed up when they killed Safari on Windows, they could have had a solid shot at being the #2 browser in the world on the merits ten years ago and they totally blew it. Eddie Cue even wrote about this in some of the emails from the Epic discovery: https://twitter.com/PatrickMcGee_/status/1389632382244847623?s=20 https://twitter.com/PatrickMcGee_/status/1389632382244847623...

vagrantJin 5y ago
My sarcasm was missed. In any case, I'm the furthest from supporting Google or anything they do. But they aren't better or worse than Apple Inc. To defend google, yes their software has the windows problem. They have to support an absurd amount of devices. So them pushing standards is just a big whale trying to get ahead of itself. No harm in that as long as devs don't go for bleeding edge features and harbour any expectations of cross browser compatibility. In not blaming Google or the regulators. They can duke it out as long as the public benefits. Safari wasnt all bad when IE was a thing. It's just that they took IE's spot by being obtuse and generally the rich kid who's a wierdo. Thanks for the tweet link. Is there a site where leaks like this are common? I really liked it more than I should and how much Apple surprisingly looks at Google. I'd always thought Apple is above looking at companies serving peasants with peasant devices.
- jolux 5y ago
  I believe I got that link from Daring Fireball originally.
galaxyLogic 5y ago
All capitalists really want to be monopolists. There is some shame in that yes. But the real shame is for the system, the laws, that allow that to happen. Shaming Google or Apple does not do much. Legislating against monopolies like AppStore would be the solution.
- musicale 5y ago
  > Legislating against monopolies like AppStore would be the solution I'm sure Microsoft (Xbox game store), Sony (PSN store) and Nintendo (eShop) will be on board with banning proprietary app store monopolies owned by the hardware vendor.

by jolux 5y ago

vagrantJin 5y ago

My sarcasm was missed. In any case, I'm the furthest from supporting Google or anything they do. But they aren't better or worse than Apple Inc. To defend google, yes their software has the windows problem. They have to support an absurd amount of devices. So them pushing standards is just a big whale trying to get ahead of itself. No harm in that as long as devs don't go for bleeding edge features and harbour any expectations of cross browser compatibility. In not blaming Google or the regulators. They can duke it out as long as the public benefits. Safari wasnt all bad when IE was a thing. It's just that they took IE's spot by being obtuse and generally the rich kid who's a wierdo. Thanks for the tweet link. Is there a site where leaks like this are common? I really liked it more than I should and how much Apple surprisingly looks at Google. I'd always thought Apple is above looking at companies serving peasants with peasant devices.

jolux 5y ago
I believe I got that link from Daring Fireball originally.

galaxyLogic 5y ago

All capitalists really want to be monopolists. There is some shame in that yes. But the real shame is for the system, the laws, that allow that to happen. Shaming Google or Apple does not do much. Legislating against monopolies like AppStore would be the solution.

musicale 5y ago
> Legislating against monopolies like AppStore would be the solution I'm sure Microsoft (Xbox game store), Sony (PSN store) and Nintendo (eShop) will be on board with banning proprietary app store monopolies owned by the hardware vendor.