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Oh, they're pretty cramped. (As a Marine, I can tell you Generation Kill was pretty good.) Actually, I would be more concerned about a tendency to rollover jus

by mrj 15y ago

Oh, they're pretty cramped. (As a Marine, I can tell you Generation Kill was pretty good.) Actually, I would be more concerned about a tendency to rollover just by looking at it. When the armored ones first came out there were a bunch of accidents because they were so much heavier at the top that they tended to rollover more often. We all had to take an off road class to drive them. :-)

jessriedel 15y ago
Do you mind elaborating? I've ridden in the civilian Hummer, and the passengers in the back seat were so far apart they could barely touch each other if they stuck out their arms. What makes it cramped? Equipment?
- soult 15y ago
  Which civilian version did you ride? The H2 and H3 are not actually based on the Humvee design.
  - jessriedel 15y ago
    Yes, I know. The H2 and H3 are just expensive SUVs, and aren't nearly as big as I described.
- mrj 15y ago
  Yeah, mostly stuff you wear. They're nice and comfy if you don't happen to be wearing body armor, your weapon, a pack, food for a day, camelback, etc. Every time a door opens you see Marines and all the gear that was stuffed in there pour out. The hmmwv is spacious, but Marines typically wear at least their body weight in gear. Nothing is ever really comfortable except lying on your back or standing...
  - rdl 15y ago
    There is also the guy standing in the middle of the 4 seats, plus all the ammo boxes, brass, radios, blue force tracker (2 way gps; shows position of friendly units on a map), etc. Rarely found on the civilian h1. I did like how body armor and Kevlar made it easier to sleep on rough surfaces (gravel, vehicles, benches, concrete walls, ...)
mrj 15y ago
Sadly too common: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015653368_apwamarineshumvee.html http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015653368_a...
inceptor 15y ago
Rollovers were actually the number two cause of death when I was in Iraq in 2009. I've never seen an MRAP rollover, but we were always a bit edgy about it happening.

by mrj 15y ago

jessriedel 15y ago

Do you mind elaborating? I've ridden in the civilian Hummer, and the passengers in the back seat were so far apart they could barely touch each other if they stuck out their arms. What makes it cramped? Equipment?

soult 15y ago
Which civilian version did you ride? The H2 and H3 are not actually based on the Humvee design.
- jessriedel 15y ago
  Yes, I know. The H2 and H3 are just expensive SUVs, and aren't nearly as big as I described.
mrj 15y ago
Yeah, mostly stuff you wear. They're nice and comfy if you don't happen to be wearing body armor, your weapon, a pack, food for a day, camelback, etc. Every time a door opens you see Marines and all the gear that was stuffed in there pour out. The hmmwv is spacious, but Marines typically wear at least their body weight in gear. Nothing is ever really comfortable except lying on your back or standing...
- rdl 15y ago
  There is also the guy standing in the middle of the 4 seats, plus all the ammo boxes, brass, radios, blue force tracker (2 way gps; shows position of friendly units on a map), etc. Rarely found on the civilian h1. I did like how body armor and Kevlar made it easier to sleep on rough surfaces (gravel, vehicles, benches, concrete walls, ...)

mrj 15y ago

Sadly too common: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015653368_apwamarineshumvee.html http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015653368_a...

inceptor 15y ago

Rollovers were actually the number two cause of death when I was in Iraq in 2009. I've never seen an MRAP rollover, but we were always a bit edgy about it happening.