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I think you've confused the talking points. I've heard the saying that fetuses aren't conscious, but I've never heard anyone, however fringe, say fetuses aren'

I think you've confused the talking points. I've heard the saying that fetuses aren't conscious, but I've never heard anyone, however fringe, say fetuses aren't alive.

dogorman 5y ago
Maybe so, though this too seems like a strange belief, and touches on the reason I find surprise at such things odd: it's been known for years that fetuses at late stages have cycles of REM sleep and apparent wakefulness.
- cma 5y ago
  Isn't that part of rationale for roe v wade 3rd trimester rule already? I've never heard someone say farm animals can't feel pain.
  - dogorman 5y ago
    I suppose you'll also claim you've never met a "vegetarian" who thinks "fish don't count."