> That we here in the US tend to think of cars as an expression of our identities is a deep-rooted issue. I actually don't mean it this way. The people that I

> That we here in the US tend to think of cars as an expression of our identities is a deep-rooted issue. I actually don't mean it this way. The people that I'm thinking of aren't in a social class/subculture that takes pride in cars per se. Especially as my generation has urbanized so heavily, if anything having a car is coded lower-class. As an example, imagine a New Yorker/San Franciscan sniffing about how they've never owned a car and "barely even know how to drive". They're definitely not saying so in embarrassment (this caricature may or may not be closer to me than I'd like to admit...) What I'm talking about is a broader inability to separate being stuck in a collective action problem from taking responsibility for the whole problem. Most people just don't have the moral reasoning ability to understand that "a car-oriented system is harmful" is different from "_you_ are harming people by participating in/being stuck in a car-oriented system".