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Because we're the modern equivalent of a slave. Slaves are always at their masters dwellings. They don't have 'home'. Obviously modern slaves do the same for th

Because we're the modern equivalent of a slave. Slaves are always at their masters dwellings. They don't have 'home'. Obviously modern slaves do the same for the most part. We should count our lucky stars were not required to sleep at work.

deanCommie 5y ago
Except you are extremely well compensated and can quit at any time.
- moate 5y ago
  Yea but other than that and your management's inability to sell you to other companies, it's literally the exact same thing /s.
- bialpio 5y ago
  Except sometimes just because you are able to quit doesn't mean you can quit. Hopefully that's less prevalent in IT, but does happen (e.g. people on work visas that cannot change their abusive employer w/o having to GTFO the country).
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    It's simpler and more common than that. - Most people don't have significant savings. Even in IT. - Many people have dependents to support. - Quitting a job and finding a new one is a big hassle. - Your chances at finding a comparable job to your previous one are strongly correlated with your performance at your past jobs. Combined, this means almost no one can just quit, without putting themselves into immediate, moderate-to-high threat to the lives of themselves and their families.
    - bialpio 5y ago
      You're right! I just went with an example that used to be the most relevant to me personally (the "work visa" part, fortunately not the "abusive employer" part). Let's throw in one more reason: health insurance being tied to current employer also means people may be forced to stay, at least until they line up their next gig.
- timwaagh 5y ago
  Except it's not that way. You can't quit your job except to take another one. They have things like 'real estate market' and 'taxes' to ensure that. You can't quit in the way most people imagine quitting. We need this for the economy to function. Just like the Romans needed slavery for theirs. You are right about the compensation. That part has improved considerably. Still the supposedly appalling thing about slavery wasn't the lack of compensation but the lack of freedom.
AutumnCurtain 5y ago
I worked at a large American healthcare tech giant with a certain Wonka-esque private owner who famously said, when asked why she didn't support adding 'nap rooms' for employees, "That's what your desks are for."
black_13 5y ago
This is absolutely correct the one thing we own is our time and having us in a contained space means control of the one piece of intrinsic property.
anarticle 5y ago
Maybe you should take a walk. No one is shackling you to a six figure salary. Get some perspective.
CrazyPyroLinux 5y ago
This reminds me of "The Tale of the Slave" from "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" https://fee.org/articles/the-tale-of-the-slave/ https://fee.org/articles/the-tale-of-the-slave/
jabrethornton 5y ago
Except for actual slaves who are still around and who are worked for no compensation and endlessly abused to no end. I think this statement is highly insulting to people who are real slaves these days. Corporations do mistreat developers for sure, but to claim to be a slave is beyond laughable.

deanCommie 5y ago

Except you are extremely well compensated and can quit at any time.

moate 5y ago
Yea but other than that and your management's inability to sell you to other companies, it's literally the exact same thing /s.
bialpio 5y ago
Except sometimes just because you are able to quit doesn't mean you can quit. Hopefully that's less prevalent in IT, but does happen (e.g. people on work visas that cannot change their abusive employer w/o having to GTFO the country).
- TeMPOraL 5y ago
  It's simpler and more common than that. - Most people don't have significant savings. Even in IT. - Many people have dependents to support. - Quitting a job and finding a new one is a big hassle. - Your chances at finding a comparable job to your previous one are strongly correlated with your performance at your past jobs. Combined, this means almost no one can just quit, without putting themselves into immediate, moderate-to-high threat to the lives of themselves and their families.
  - bialpio 5y ago
    You're right! I just went with an example that used to be the most relevant to me personally (the "work visa" part, fortunately not the "abusive employer" part). Let's throw in one more reason: health insurance being tied to current employer also means people may be forced to stay, at least until they line up their next gig.
timwaagh 5y ago
Except it's not that way. You can't quit your job except to take another one. They have things like 'real estate market' and 'taxes' to ensure that. You can't quit in the way most people imagine quitting. We need this for the economy to function. Just like the Romans needed slavery for theirs. You are right about the compensation. That part has improved considerably. Still the supposedly appalling thing about slavery wasn't the lack of compensation but the lack of freedom.

AutumnCurtain 5y ago

I worked at a large American healthcare tech giant with a certain Wonka-esque private owner who famously said, when asked why she didn't support adding 'nap rooms' for employees, "That's what your desks are for."

black_13 5y ago

This is absolutely correct the one thing we own is our time and having us in a contained space means control of the one piece of intrinsic property.

anarticle 5y ago

Maybe you should take a walk. No one is shackling you to a six figure salary. Get some perspective.

CrazyPyroLinux 5y ago

This reminds me of "The Tale of the Slave" from "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" https://fee.org/articles/the-tale-of-the-slave/ https://fee.org/articles/the-tale-of-the-slave/

jabrethornton 5y ago

Except for actual slaves who are still around and who are worked for no compensation and endlessly abused to no end. I think this statement is highly insulting to people who are real slaves these days. Corporations do mistreat developers for sure, but to claim to be a slave is beyond laughable.