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> Charging still takes a long time Barring roadtrips, charging at home costs about 30s. Even factoring the longer time supercharging on roadtrips (relative to

> Charging still takes a long time Barring roadtrips, charging at home costs about 30s. Even factoring the longer time supercharging on roadtrips (relative to gas), I'm confident I spend far less total time charging my EV than filling my gas tank.

bluGill 5y ago
30 seconds per day times 30 days is 900 seconds or about 15 minutes per month spent charging. How much time do you spend filling gas per month?
- usaar333 5y ago
  You don't need to charge an EV every day... On a model 3 range, you maybe change 3x as often as fill up. Gas is a 10 minute overhead generally. So 90s vs 10 minutes per 400 miles or so.
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- beerandt 5y ago
  Not only that but counting fill up time against gas, while not counting all charging time against EV is hardly apples to apples. If the justification is doing something productive with that time, then washing your windshield or going into the C-store to get a snack and a drink shouldn't count as gas up time. I get that progress is being made, but the contortions required to prove that the status quo is "good enough" are frustrating, at best. The best way to get a person to commit to an ice vehicle for life is to mislead them into committing to an EV before it or the infrastructure suits their needs.
  - emilecantin 5y ago
    When I get home, I plug in my car and then go do something else "productive". When I need my car, I unplug it and go. Both of these operations take about 10s each (because I like coiling the cable nicely). Contrast that with the experience at a gas station, where I have to stand awkwardly next to my car while I keep my hand on the pump handle (there are no "locks" on the handles anymore), then wait in line inside the store to pay while the old lady in front of me buys a gazillion lottery tickets in pennies (tongue-in-cheek, but hey, it happens). Not having to do that every week is very nice, IMO. Then you have the roadtrip experience, where yes, you have to wait a bit while you charge, but it's a lot less of a problem than people think. I did a roadtrip in a Tesla back in 2015 with 3 other guys. We did Montreal - Atlanta for a conference, and we were driving non-stop, changing drivers every time we charged. There were maybe 2 stops total where it was inconvenient because we had to wait in the car, but the dozen others were often longer than the car wanted because we found a nice restaurant / café. Again, this was in 2015. 6 years later, I imagine it's improved a lot.

bluGill 5y ago

30 seconds per day times 30 days is 900 seconds or about 15 minutes per month spent charging. How much time do you spend filling gas per month?

usaar333 5y ago
You don't need to charge an EV every day... On a model 3 range, you maybe change 3x as often as fill up. Gas is a 10 minute overhead generally. So 90s vs 10 minutes per 400 miles or so.
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beerandt 5y ago
Not only that but counting fill up time against gas, while not counting all charging time against EV is hardly apples to apples. If the justification is doing something productive with that time, then washing your windshield or going into the C-store to get a snack and a drink shouldn't count as gas up time. I get that progress is being made, but the contortions required to prove that the status quo is "good enough" are frustrating, at best. The best way to get a person to commit to an ice vehicle for life is to mislead them into committing to an EV before it or the infrastructure suits their needs.
- emilecantin 5y ago
  When I get home, I plug in my car and then go do something else "productive". When I need my car, I unplug it and go. Both of these operations take about 10s each (because I like coiling the cable nicely). Contrast that with the experience at a gas station, where I have to stand awkwardly next to my car while I keep my hand on the pump handle (there are no "locks" on the handles anymore), then wait in line inside the store to pay while the old lady in front of me buys a gazillion lottery tickets in pennies (tongue-in-cheek, but hey, it happens). Not having to do that every week is very nice, IMO. Then you have the roadtrip experience, where yes, you have to wait a bit while you charge, but it's a lot less of a problem than people think. I did a roadtrip in a Tesla back in 2015 with 3 other guys. We did Montreal - Atlanta for a conference, and we were driving non-stop, changing drivers every time we charged. There were maybe 2 stops total where it was inconvenient because we had to wait in the car, but the dozen others were often longer than the car wanted because we found a nice restaurant / café. Again, this was in 2015. 6 years later, I imagine it's improved a lot.