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Progressives in the US have been demonized since Vietnam. The War on Drugs is on record as an attempt to associate enemies of the Republican party with somethin
by teawrecks 5y ago
Progressives in the US have been demonized since Vietnam. The War on Drugs is on record as an attempt to associate enemies of the Republican party with something that law enforcement could be used as a weapon against. The peaceful skinhead movement was hijacked in an attempt to associate them with neonazis.
In the 90s the middle east was radicalized from years of being occupied by western military forces. 9/11 was, in their words, intended to be a wakeup call to the American people. It was terrorism in every sense of the word: intended to strike fear into American citizens in the same way that they already lived in fear of US forces, with the goal of destabilizing their enemy.
Two decades of right wing propaganda later and it's clear they've succeeded in radicalizing the US right. Progressives never stopped protesting attempts to violate personal freedoms, but conservatives consistently wield their fear as an excuse to persecute anyone who doesn't fit their definition of being an American. Now fear is at an all time high, which means right wing militias are stronger than ever.
Studies show that while both liberals and conservatives are susceptible to misinformation, there is far far more misinformation that appeals to conservatives in circulation, and as a result, the impact of misinformation on conservatives is greater: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/23/eabf1234.full https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/23/eabf1234.full
Jan 6th was a precursor to what's to come. It's only a matter of time before we see another 9/11, but this time it will be carried out by our own citizens. Right wingers, who live in constant fear fed to them by their media and internet bubbles, will want their "enemies" to feel the same fear.
Who are their enemies? Basically everyone: https://www.thetrumparchive.com/insights/insults https://www.thetrumparchive.com/insights/insults
So either we control the stoking of fear (which is very questionable for a govt to do) or we monitor these militias as probable terrorist cells (also questionable).
I don't think there's any way we survive this century without another world war. The internet is too important and influential for it to not spark a huge conflict amongst homo sapiens who haven't yet evolved to know how to wield it.
- iammisc 5y ago> Progressives never stopped protesting attempts to violate personal freedoms, What nonsense. Progressives in this country are currently advocating for people to be banned from doing normal every day activities unless they're carrying proof of taking an experimental drug. There is serious talk amongst 'progressives' in Congress to ban certain people's speech from the internet. Pull your head out of the sand. No faction is perfect. Why are we pretending.
- teawrecks 5y agoYou're using "progressives" in quotes because you don't think their behavior is progressive or that they qualify as progressives. I agree. The people you do believe qualify as progressive are who I'm referring to. In other words, progressives are the ones protesting for individual freedoms by definition. I deliberately chose this word in this context instead of "liberal" because the two are not synonymous.
- iammisc 5y agoProgressive is in quotes because that's what they call themselves. I have other names for them that are inappropriate for HN. And progressivism is not for individual freedoms by definition. Far from it. Progressivism refers to the impulse to use government intervention as a means to achieve social ends. The temperance movement was part of the progressive movement in this country. As was the eugenics movement. Progressivism does not have any unique claims to the fight for individual rights. Far from it. Progressivism was first used in contrast to 'constitutionalism', which was the philosophy of enlightenment individual rights as espoused by those who wrote the American constitution. This is hardly controversial stuff. It's even in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism. > In the United States, progressivism began as an intellectual rebellion against the political philosophy of Constitutionalism as expressed by John Locke and the founders of the American Republic, whereby the authority of government depends on observing limitations on its just powers.