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Sure, but China doesn't appear to be short-sighted. In 10 years will this be the case? Nuclear takes a long time to bring online, they've at least got the proc

Sure, but China doesn't appear to be short-sighted. In 10 years will this be the case? Nuclear takes a long time to bring online, they've at least got the process in motion and reasons to be polluting right now. Polluters like Australia don't and that's my point. Or maybe it'd be better that China stops producing renewable technologies for the rest of the world? One big area I see them improving is with use of electric vehicles. Can't do EV's if your grid can't supply the energy. Should they push gas and diesel vehicles instead for the next decade or two?

throwaway894345 5y ago
> Or maybe it'd be better that China stops producing renewable technologies for the rest of the world? I don't understand the dichotomy here. Is the argument that China's production of solar panels is a primary driver of China's pollution and thus cutting pollution in China would significantly hamper their ability to produce PV for the world? That seems dubious to me if I understand it correctly?
- joecool1029 5y ago
  >I don't understand the dichotomy here. Let's make it easy then: Without coal as a large % of base load they'd have to shut down a good amount of their manufacturing and focus on putting less EV's on the road until they could replace the base load lost from shutting off all their coal production. China is #10 on the list of natural gas reserves, far below what the US or Russia has. At their current consumption they are anticipated to run out in a little over 20 years. I do not think it is a viable strategy to throw tons of natural gas online and rely on Russia when it runs out. Literally nothing the Chinese do with energy policy right now will appease the west. If they put in more hydro for wind/PV storage western press would print headlines about how the big bad CCP flooded over some villages and are destroying their environment.
  - krrrh 5y ago
    > Literally nothing the Chinese do with energy policy right now will appease the west. Serious development and commercialization of small modular nuclear reactors as an alternative to coal would probably do the trick.

throwaway894345 5y ago

> Or maybe it'd be better that China stops producing renewable technologies for the rest of the world? I don't understand the dichotomy here. Is the argument that China's production of solar panels is a primary driver of China's pollution and thus cutting pollution in China would significantly hamper their ability to produce PV for the world? That seems dubious to me if I understand it correctly?

joecool1029 5y ago
>I don't understand the dichotomy here. Let's make it easy then: Without coal as a large % of base load they'd have to shut down a good amount of their manufacturing and focus on putting less EV's on the road until they could replace the base load lost from shutting off all their coal production. China is #10 on the list of natural gas reserves, far below what the US or Russia has. At their current consumption they are anticipated to run out in a little over 20 years. I do not think it is a viable strategy to throw tons of natural gas online and rely on Russia when it runs out. Literally nothing the Chinese do with energy policy right now will appease the west. If they put in more hydro for wind/PV storage western press would print headlines about how the big bad CCP flooded over some villages and are destroying their environment.
- krrrh 5y ago
  > Literally nothing the Chinese do with energy policy right now will appease the west. Serious development and commercialization of small modular nuclear reactors as an alternative to coal would probably do the trick.