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It's obvious that you don't live in the United States. The nearest grocery store from my suburban house is 2.3 miles away. It's a 1hr walk or a 30 minute bike r

It's obvious that you don't live in the United States. The nearest grocery store from my suburban house is 2.3 miles away. It's a 1hr walk or a 30 minute bike ride, and to get there, I would need to scale a 400 ft elevation gain each way. The gym is 3 miles from my house in the opposite direction. I would bike there but the only road is extremely narrow and quite frankly dangerous to ride on. There is simply no way I can conduct my life without a car, and I say that as someone that loves to ride a bike and frequently rides 50mi and over.

yawaworht1978 5y ago
Sure, i know, the US has crowded, big cities and many remote suburban areas. I am not against the use of any car, electro or not, I am a realist. However, the US is not the whole world, albeit a big market. But to get all manufacturers to do the same, there has to be a market that's as big as possible. There are many countries stricken by poverty (no purchasing power), inadequate roads and no electro infrastructure for cars in sight.
sorokod 5y ago
Is this sustainable? Is this not a problem that requires a solution? Was watching the Simpsons with my eight year old. He remarked that they must be rich to own two cars.
- Invictus0 5y ago
  No, it's terrible and I hate living in the suburbs. We are a family of 4 with 4, 4-door cars. It's ludicrous. But good luck convincing tens of millions of suburbanites to, idk, sell their home at a loss and move to a city? Public transit makes no sense. The geography is too hilly for biking and there is no infrastructure for it anyway. Everything is spread too far away. I wish we had never built suburbs in the first place but it's far too late for that.
  - sorokod 5y ago
    There are many countries, even "first world" countries, where a family of 4 does not need 4 cars to get on with their daily life. Replacing 4 ICE cars with for 4 EV cars is not a solution to a problem worth solving.
    - nemothekid 5y ago
      >Replacing 4 ICE cars with for 4 EV cars is not a solution to a problem worth solving. CO2 production is not an issue worth solving? In seriousness, trying to "fix" American suburbs is another problem wrought with political issues of its own (See Trump's "Suburbs under Siege") message. Getting to the point where population density makes it feasible to have adequate public transportation in most suburbs doesn't like something that would ever be economic for large parts of the US. So you end up with situations where Mom, Dad, Son and Daughter all need their own cars for basic needs.
      - sorokod 5y ago
        The point I am trying to make is that this lifestyle is not well supported by this planet.

yawaworht1978 5y ago

Sure, i know, the US has crowded, big cities and many remote suburban areas. I am not against the use of any car, electro or not, I am a realist. However, the US is not the whole world, albeit a big market. But to get all manufacturers to do the same, there has to be a market that's as big as possible. There are many countries stricken by poverty (no purchasing power), inadequate roads and no electro infrastructure for cars in sight.

sorokod 5y ago

Is this sustainable? Is this not a problem that requires a solution? Was watching the Simpsons with my eight year old. He remarked that they must be rich to own two cars.

Invictus0 5y ago
No, it's terrible and I hate living in the suburbs. We are a family of 4 with 4, 4-door cars. It's ludicrous. But good luck convincing tens of millions of suburbanites to, idk, sell their home at a loss and move to a city? Public transit makes no sense. The geography is too hilly for biking and there is no infrastructure for it anyway. Everything is spread too far away. I wish we had never built suburbs in the first place but it's far too late for that.
- sorokod 5y ago
  There are many countries, even "first world" countries, where a family of 4 does not need 4 cars to get on with their daily life. Replacing 4 ICE cars with for 4 EV cars is not a solution to a problem worth solving.
  - nemothekid 5y ago
    >Replacing 4 ICE cars with for 4 EV cars is not a solution to a problem worth solving. CO2 production is not an issue worth solving? In seriousness, trying to "fix" American suburbs is another problem wrought with political issues of its own (See Trump's "Suburbs under Siege") message. Getting to the point where population density makes it feasible to have adequate public transportation in most suburbs doesn't like something that would ever be economic for large parts of the US. So you end up with situations where Mom, Dad, Son and Daughter all need their own cars for basic needs.
    - sorokod 5y ago
      The point I am trying to make is that this lifestyle is not well supported by this planet.