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This was my favorite, the 37 year old manager: "Fearful of losing one more junior employee in what has become a tight job market, Mr. Singer has allowed a youn

This was my favorite, the 37 year old manager: "Fearful of losing one more junior employee in what has become a tight job market, Mr. Singer has allowed a young colleague to work from home one day a week with an understanding that they would revisit the issue in the future." One day a week! Yeah, that'll retain 'em for sure.

goostavos 5y ago
The FANG I'm at offered us a whole two days per week..! I was blown away by the complete tone deaf hubris. The WFH topic is bafflingly being met by the exact same old talking points as before (e.g. "slippery slope") -- as though the last year and a half didn't just happen. Something'll give or, welp... time to begrudgingly start leetcoding to shake off the interview dust.
- Shindi 5y ago
  Which FANG so I can avoid?
  - mister_tee 5y ago
    Maybe a majority of big tech. Following is from quick news searches. Those in the know please correct if you want and if you're allowed. Facebook: local employees are expected in the office "at least half the time." But Zuckerberg is quoted elsewhere as saying he thinks a majority of the workforce will eventually be remote. Remote pay is adjusted. Do not know if employees or teams can just arbitrarily choose that setup. Apple: 3 days in the office (postponed 1 month) Amazon: 3 days in, 2 days at home as "baseline." Netflix: 9/2020 articles suggested bringing everyone back full time. Hastings was quoted then as being against home/remote including a joke that he though the RTO deadline should be "12 hours after a vaccine is approved," with the serious followup thought to be after a majority of their employees were vaccinated. That was a year ago and things are more relaxed now; it sounds like it will be voluntary in the near future. Google: "hybrid" 3 days in, 2 at home for local employees. Some fraction of the workforce will be remote. Extending to honorary FAANGUM: Uber: 3 days in, 2 at home Microsoft: different "hybrid." Microsoft seems to be the only one of the group to have committed to generally allow employees to choose? reminder those may all be outdated, this was a very quick search. Aside from Apple all the articles were written pre-Delta in the US.
    - hobos_delight 5y ago
      I joined MSFT as a manager 18 months ago, and honestly think their remote policy is one of the better ones out there. Up to 50% remote time with no approval, up to 100% with manager approval. This of course is modulo legal / right to work if you’re moving countries. I’m not in the US and we’re trying to hire a lot of SWEs right now, and really trying to leverage this for our hiring. I only have a small number of teams, but we’ve all been remote since April of last year and it has been working well, though I think people are keen to get back to the office for the social aspect. Those that wanted full remote have already gone that path.
      - silicon2401 5y ago
        Do you have any advice on applying to msft? I'd love to work for them due to their products and now even more so due to their apparent support for fully remote work.
globular-toast 5y ago
I worked in a finance company for a while and told my manager I was finding it difficult to concentrate at work. A year or so before the company had got rid of all small offices and gone 100% hotdesking. Meetings were done almost exclusively remotely via Skype, but everyone had to be sitting at a desk to be part of it. I would often find myself surrounded on all sides by 3-4 people all on different calls. We already had VPN set up and when I was ill I ended up working from home one day. Suddenly I remembered what it was like to actually achieve something at work. I had done more in one day at home than a month in the office. I explained this to my boss the best I could and he said I could work from home one day per week on a provisional basis. I left shortly after.

goostavos 5y ago

The FANG I'm at offered us a whole two days per week..! I was blown away by the complete tone deaf hubris. The WFH topic is bafflingly being met by the exact same old talking points as before (e.g. "slippery slope") -- as though the last year and a half didn't just happen. Something'll give or, welp... time to begrudgingly start leetcoding to shake off the interview dust.

Shindi 5y ago
Which FANG so I can avoid?
- mister_tee 5y ago
  Maybe a majority of big tech. Following is from quick news searches. Those in the know please correct if you want and if you're allowed. Facebook: local employees are expected in the office "at least half the time." But Zuckerberg is quoted elsewhere as saying he thinks a majority of the workforce will eventually be remote. Remote pay is adjusted. Do not know if employees or teams can just arbitrarily choose that setup. Apple: 3 days in the office (postponed 1 month) Amazon: 3 days in, 2 days at home as "baseline." Netflix: 9/2020 articles suggested bringing everyone back full time. Hastings was quoted then as being against home/remote including a joke that he though the RTO deadline should be "12 hours after a vaccine is approved," with the serious followup thought to be after a majority of their employees were vaccinated. That was a year ago and things are more relaxed now; it sounds like it will be voluntary in the near future. Google: "hybrid" 3 days in, 2 at home for local employees. Some fraction of the workforce will be remote. Extending to honorary FAANGUM: Uber: 3 days in, 2 at home Microsoft: different "hybrid." Microsoft seems to be the only one of the group to have committed to generally allow employees to choose? reminder those may all be outdated, this was a very quick search. Aside from Apple all the articles were written pre-Delta in the US.
  - hobos_delight 5y ago
    I joined MSFT as a manager 18 months ago, and honestly think their remote policy is one of the better ones out there. Up to 50% remote time with no approval, up to 100% with manager approval. This of course is modulo legal / right to work if you’re moving countries. I’m not in the US and we’re trying to hire a lot of SWEs right now, and really trying to leverage this for our hiring. I only have a small number of teams, but we’ve all been remote since April of last year and it has been working well, though I think people are keen to get back to the office for the social aspect. Those that wanted full remote have already gone that path.
    - silicon2401 5y ago
      Do you have any advice on applying to msft? I'd love to work for them due to their products and now even more so due to their apparent support for fully remote work.

globular-toast 5y ago

I worked in a finance company for a while and told my manager I was finding it difficult to concentrate at work. A year or so before the company had got rid of all small offices and gone 100% hotdesking. Meetings were done almost exclusively remotely via Skype, but everyone had to be sitting at a desk to be part of it. I would often find myself surrounded on all sides by 3-4 people all on different calls. We already had VPN set up and when I was ill I ended up working from home one day. Suddenly I remembered what it was like to actually achieve something at work. I had done more in one day at home than a month in the office. I explained this to my boss the best I could and he said I could work from home one day per week on a provisional basis. I left shortly after.