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You say that as if both the US and Europe aren't having some pretty massive downsides from their immigration policies.

keewee7 5y ago
There is a difference between skilled and unskilled immigration. There is little opposition to skilled (or educated) immigration in Europe.
rejectedandsad 5y ago
The US is notably the most immigrant-friendly country in the world*, and has been since 1965. Birthright citizenship is unheard of in most of the world, but it's a constitutional right in America. Even skilled workers have a fair shot in America, but I do personally think it should be easier and more flexible than the H1B system we have today. More immigrants of all kinds are good for this country. *recent president notwithstanding
- dukeyukey 5y ago
  > Birthright citizenship is unheard of in most of the world Well, unless you're almost anywhere in the New World [1]. > The US is notably the most immigrant-friendly country in the world I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but countries like Canada and Australia give the US a run for their money. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#/media/File:Jus_soli_world.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#/media/File:Jus_soli_...
  - rejectedandsad 5y ago
    You’re correct, I do think Canada is going to continue to be a major competitor in this regard. They do have a lot of our advantages here with a more skills-focused immigration policy.
- MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
  > More immigrants of all kinds are good for this country. The way a discussion works is you are supporting something like the above sentence with arguments.
- Rd6n6 5y ago
  I know somebody who was highly skilled who spent years trying to get permanent residency in the USA, but gave up, moved to Canada, and got it almost immediately.
  - FalconSensei 5y ago
    I know people who spend a few years working remotely for a US company while 'waiting their turn' to be able to actually go to US. Meanwhile I got invited to apply for a provincial process (Canada) while still living in Brazil, and both processes (provincial nomination + permanent residency) were easy, transparent, and I guess quick?
dsr_ 5y ago
Yes, the US needs to treat immigration as though it were the lifeblood of the country... which it has been for most of its existence.

There is a difference between skilled and unskilled immigration. There is little opposition to skilled (or educated) immigration in Europe.

rejectedandsad 5y ago

The US is notably the most immigrant-friendly country in the world*, and has been since 1965. Birthright citizenship is unheard of in most of the world, but it's a constitutional right in America. Even skilled workers have a fair shot in America, but I do personally think it should be easier and more flexible than the H1B system we have today. More immigrants of all kinds are good for this country. *recent president notwithstanding

dukeyukey 5y ago
> Birthright citizenship is unheard of in most of the world Well, unless you're almost anywhere in the New World [1]. > The US is notably the most immigrant-friendly country in the world I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but countries like Canada and Australia give the US a run for their money. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#/media/File:Jus_soli_world.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#/media/File:Jus_soli_...
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  You’re correct, I do think Canada is going to continue to be a major competitor in this regard. They do have a lot of our advantages here with a more skills-focused immigration policy.
MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
> More immigrants of all kinds are good for this country. The way a discussion works is you are supporting something like the above sentence with arguments.
Rd6n6 5y ago
I know somebody who was highly skilled who spent years trying to get permanent residency in the USA, but gave up, moved to Canada, and got it almost immediately.
- FalconSensei 5y ago
  I know people who spend a few years working remotely for a US company while 'waiting their turn' to be able to actually go to US. Meanwhile I got invited to apply for a provincial process (Canada) while still living in Brazil, and both processes (provincial nomination + permanent residency) were easy, transparent, and I guess quick?

dsr_ 5y ago

Yes, the US needs to treat immigration as though it were the lifeblood of the country... which it has been for most of its existence.