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I was incredibly confused this year by Russia being "ROC" and Taiwan being "Chinese Taipei", given I'd always mentally associated "ROC" with Republic of China a

by wayne 5y ago

I was incredibly confused this year by Russia being "ROC" and Taiwan being "Chinese Taipei", given I'd always mentally associated "ROC" with Republic of China aka Taiwan.

dragontamer 5y ago
Russia cheated with steroids / doping at a state level. So Russia itself was banned from the Olympics (their flag, their anthem, etc. etc.) The athletes shouldn't be punished however, so the athletes are allowed to get together to make their own group. At least, the 2021 athletes are not the same athletes who cheated years ago, so we should give them a chance at the world stage. Flying under the Olympic flag under a "not Russia" name is a good compromise IMO. It publicizes the cheat while still allowing the athletes to compete.
- ufo 5y ago
  Nevertheless, I think we can all agree that the olympics should have picked a less confusing acronym for the Russian athletes.
- dannyr 5y ago
  If a country cheats in the Olympics, who should be punished by the IOC then if they cannot ban the athletes? I think it was worth it for Russia to cheat in the Sochi Olympics. There doesn't seem to be any significant consequence from their violations.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    The 11 athletes who cheated at Sochi were banned for life from all Olympic events. The issue is that Russia as a state cheated as well, so its a bit difficult to figure out a proper punishment. They just didn't want to ban the new generation of athletes. A lot of these kids are just 19 years old (aka: they were 13 years old at Sochi). I think banning the cheaters, but not the "next generation" is a good plan.
- mason55 5y ago
  They shouldn’t have let them wear the uniforms they chose though. The uniforms are clearly the Russian flag and you see it in warmups and the medal ceremonies.
mason55 5y ago
This confused me as well. I was aware of all the doping but didn’t realize Russia was competing as ROC this year and was shocked that Taiwan was no longer forced to call themselves Chinese Taipei. Then I saw the Chinese Taipei team and thought maybe ROC was the Refugee Olympic Committee and was pleasantly surprised at how well they were doing in non-marathon events. Only after I searched did I realize ROC is just Russia.

by wayne 5y ago

I was incredibly confused this year by Russia being "ROC" and Taiwan being "Chinese Taipei", given I'd always mentally associated "ROC" with Republic of China aka Taiwan.

dragontamer 5y ago

Russia cheated with steroids / doping at a state level. So Russia itself was banned from the Olympics (their flag, their anthem, etc. etc.) The athletes shouldn't be punished however, so the athletes are allowed to get together to make their own group. At least, the 2021 athletes are not the same athletes who cheated years ago, so we should give them a chance at the world stage. Flying under the Olympic flag under a "not Russia" name is a good compromise IMO. It publicizes the cheat while still allowing the athletes to compete.

ufo 5y ago
Nevertheless, I think we can all agree that the olympics should have picked a less confusing acronym for the Russian athletes.
dannyr 5y ago
If a country cheats in the Olympics, who should be punished by the IOC then if they cannot ban the athletes? I think it was worth it for Russia to cheat in the Sochi Olympics. There doesn't seem to be any significant consequence from their violations.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  The 11 athletes who cheated at Sochi were banned for life from all Olympic events. The issue is that Russia as a state cheated as well, so its a bit difficult to figure out a proper punishment. They just didn't want to ban the new generation of athletes. A lot of these kids are just 19 years old (aka: they were 13 years old at Sochi). I think banning the cheaters, but not the "next generation" is a good plan.
mason55 5y ago
They shouldn’t have let them wear the uniforms they chose though. The uniforms are clearly the Russian flag and you see it in warmups and the medal ceremonies.

mason55 5y ago

This confused me as well. I was aware of all the doping but didn’t realize Russia was competing as ROC this year and was shocked that Taiwan was no longer forced to call themselves Chinese Taipei. Then I saw the Chinese Taipei team and thought maybe ROC was the Refugee Olympic Committee and was pleasantly surprised at how well they were doing in non-marathon events. Only after I searched did I realize ROC is just Russia.