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I am guessing down votes are not for expressing your opinion but rather for not providing context. Why is Windows better option for you?

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind?[0] That I prefer the way Windows works is sufficient reason to continue to use it instead of Linux Desktop. Why is not really relevant. [0] I've played that game a thousand times and it is always an exercise in frustration. No thanks.
- kempbellt 5y ago
  "Windows good, you can't change my mind!" doesn't add anything of value to the conversation, especially for people who aren't dead-set either way. If you swear by windows, you probably have good reasons. People who like windows would love to hear them. Otherwise, why partake in a conversation that frustrates you at all if you don't want to argue in support of your opinion? +1 for the windows camp: Personally, I haven't found a better alternative for running Adobe programs on good hardware without taking out a loan on my house (mac pros are a no-go). So Windows works best here. Another +1 for the windows camp: Gaming (but SteamOS is starting to compete here). Other than that, I have found that some variant of linux or macOS outperforms windows in every way for my needs (insert obligatory, YMMV), and I am happy to list those out if anyone is interested or needs help deciding which OS suits their needs best.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    > "Windows good, you can't change my mind!" doesn't add anything of value to the conversation I was making a specific counterpoint to the argument "there really isn't a good excuse to stay with Microsoft". My point needed no elaboration to be valid. > Otherwise, why partake in a conversation that frustrates you at all if you don't want to argue in support of your opinion? Because in my experience said "conversations" always devolve into the same useless arguments, which are entirely irrelevant to the point that people have good reasons they use Windows because anyone else's opinion of their reasons is irrelevant.
- michaelt 5y ago
  > Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind? Because you want upvotes, so you gotta give people things to agree with. If I just say "Linux Sucks" I'm not giving people much to agree with, except naked tribalism. But there are other things I can say that will allow members of my tribe to feel they're not voting tribally - and even some Linux enthusiasts to think I've got a point: * "Linux doesn't support Photoshop / MS Excel / Altium / SolidWorks" * "Microsoft's fanatical devotion to binary backwards-compatibility means I don't have to worry old software will break because I've got the wrong version of python installed, or my version of libreadline is too new." * "I've got an nvidia graphics card, and nvidia drivers on Linux are a right mess" * "Linux is all-too-often a second-class citizen, both hardware and software makers giving it less testing and support than they do Windows and Mac"
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    > * "Linux doesn't support Photoshop / MS Excel / Altium / SolidWorks" "You don't need those things anyway, Krita / LibreOffice Calc / etc are good enough. Alternatively, don't they run in Wine?" > * "Microsoft's fanatical devotion to binary backwards-compatibility means I don't have to worry old software will break because I've got the wrong version of python installed, or my version of libreadline is too new." "People shouldn't use old software because it is insecure. Fortunately there are armies of third party package maintainers dedicated to keeping software up to date for you and updating is easy and painless." > * "I've got an nvidia graphics card, and nvidia drivers on Linux are a right mess" "Don't use Nvidia then." > * "Linux is all-too-often a second-class citizen, both hardware and software makers giving it less testing and support than they do Windows and Mac" "That's why we have to push more for its adoption!" Like I said, I've played this game a lot. This is exactly how it goes every damned time. No matter what you say, someone will come out of the woodwork to argue that your opinion is wrong, you chose the wrong hardware, or even, bizarrely, that normal people don't need that, like that has anything at all to do with why you need it.
    - michaelt 5y ago
      > This is exactly how it goes every damned time. Well, if you're going to post arguing against your own point every time... :)
- MomoXenosaga 5y ago
  I swear Linux is a religion and its believers must CONVERT the heretics.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind?[0] That I prefer the way Windows works is sufficient reason to continue to use it instead of Linux Desktop. Why is not really relevant. [0] I've played that game a thousand times and it is always an exercise in frustration. No thanks.

kempbellt 5y ago
"Windows good, you can't change my mind!" doesn't add anything of value to the conversation, especially for people who aren't dead-set either way. If you swear by windows, you probably have good reasons. People who like windows would love to hear them. Otherwise, why partake in a conversation that frustrates you at all if you don't want to argue in support of your opinion? +1 for the windows camp: Personally, I haven't found a better alternative for running Adobe programs on good hardware without taking out a loan on my house (mac pros are a no-go). So Windows works best here. Another +1 for the windows camp: Gaming (but SteamOS is starting to compete here). Other than that, I have found that some variant of linux or macOS outperforms windows in every way for my needs (insert obligatory, YMMV), and I am happy to list those out if anyone is interested or needs help deciding which OS suits their needs best.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  > "Windows good, you can't change my mind!" doesn't add anything of value to the conversation I was making a specific counterpoint to the argument "there really isn't a good excuse to stay with Microsoft". My point needed no elaboration to be valid. > Otherwise, why partake in a conversation that frustrates you at all if you don't want to argue in support of your opinion? Because in my experience said "conversations" always devolve into the same useless arguments, which are entirely irrelevant to the point that people have good reasons they use Windows because anyone else's opinion of their reasons is irrelevant.
michaelt 5y ago
> Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind? Because you want upvotes, so you gotta give people things to agree with. If I just say "Linux Sucks" I'm not giving people much to agree with, except naked tribalism. But there are other things I can say that will allow members of my tribe to feel they're not voting tribally - and even some Linux enthusiasts to think I've got a point: * "Linux doesn't support Photoshop / MS Excel / Altium / SolidWorks" * "Microsoft's fanatical devotion to binary backwards-compatibility means I don't have to worry old software will break because I've got the wrong version of python installed, or my version of libreadline is too new." * "I've got an nvidia graphics card, and nvidia drivers on Linux are a right mess" * "Linux is all-too-often a second-class citizen, both hardware and software makers giving it less testing and support than they do Windows and Mac"
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  > * "Linux doesn't support Photoshop / MS Excel / Altium / SolidWorks" "You don't need those things anyway, Krita / LibreOffice Calc / etc are good enough. Alternatively, don't they run in Wine?" > * "Microsoft's fanatical devotion to binary backwards-compatibility means I don't have to worry old software will break because I've got the wrong version of python installed, or my version of libreadline is too new." "People shouldn't use old software because it is insecure. Fortunately there are armies of third party package maintainers dedicated to keeping software up to date for you and updating is easy and painless." > * "I've got an nvidia graphics card, and nvidia drivers on Linux are a right mess" "Don't use Nvidia then." > * "Linux is all-too-often a second-class citizen, both hardware and software makers giving it less testing and support than they do Windows and Mac" "That's why we have to push more for its adoption!" Like I said, I've played this game a lot. This is exactly how it goes every damned time. No matter what you say, someone will come out of the woodwork to argue that your opinion is wrong, you chose the wrong hardware, or even, bizarrely, that normal people don't need that, like that has anything at all to do with why you need it.
  - michaelt 5y ago
    > This is exactly how it goes every damned time. Well, if you're going to post arguing against your own point every time... :)
MomoXenosaga 5y ago
I swear Linux is a religion and its believers must CONVERT the heretics.