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As a German Permits, the government is V slow. And labor is expensive. Also sounds expensive to use all the water they need, since they would need to clean it

As a German Permits, the government is V slow. And labor is expensive. Also sounds expensive to use all the water they need, since they would need to clean it up very good and align the temperature with the rest of the attached rivers or what they use. And other climate relevant regulations.

ChemSpider 5y ago
Germany has plenty of water. Certainly more than Taiwan.
- sabjut 5y ago
  That's what Elon Musk said too about the Brandenburg Facory ("Doesn't look like a desert so it must be ok") But environment groups are saying that ground water levels have been decreasing for years and the factory would demand too much from the water network. So who is in the right here?
  - bildung 5y ago
    I assume Tesla was just trying to be cheap. As soon as the water supplier said Teslas expected demand (372 m³ per hour) wouldn't be possible, the demand suddenly shrank to 243 m³ per hour. So my guess is that Tesla tried to reduce capex by employing more wasteful water usage but now has to work more efficiently. https://www.quarks.de/umwelt/wie-problematisch-ist-der-bau-von-teslas-gigafabrik/ https://www.quarks.de/umwelt/wie-problematisch-ist-der-bau-v...
    - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
      I think the demand was peak demand, so all you need to reduce that is a) accept it as a bottleneck and slow the most water intensive process to spread the peak out, or b) add a buffer pool.
- ulfw 5y ago
  Germany gets round about 750mm of rain a year, Taiwan 2500mm.
  - estaseuropano 5y ago
    Taiwan is a tiny area compared to the diversity you get in Germany, which has very diverse weather across regions, significant rivers, accessible groundwater, etc.
- boruto 5y ago
  In Berlin there is water which even the city doesn't want. :)) http://allsinkscherman.blogspot.com/2013/02/berlin-water-pipes-you-dont-smoke.html?m=1 http://allsinkscherman.blogspot.com/2013/02/berlin-water-pip...
MarcusE1W 5y ago
I am not sure that it is a bad thing that a company, any company really is not allowed to play fast and loose with the environment they operate in. It’s not that the relevant laws are a secret and used to club you over the head once you nicely settled in and set up everything to your own advantage

ChemSpider 5y ago

Germany has plenty of water. Certainly more than Taiwan.

sabjut 5y ago
That's what Elon Musk said too about the Brandenburg Facory ("Doesn't look like a desert so it must be ok") But environment groups are saying that ground water levels have been decreasing for years and the factory would demand too much from the water network. So who is in the right here?
- bildung 5y ago
  I assume Tesla was just trying to be cheap. As soon as the water supplier said Teslas expected demand (372 m³ per hour) wouldn't be possible, the demand suddenly shrank to 243 m³ per hour. So my guess is that Tesla tried to reduce capex by employing more wasteful water usage but now has to work more efficiently. https://www.quarks.de/umwelt/wie-problematisch-ist-der-bau-von-teslas-gigafabrik/ https://www.quarks.de/umwelt/wie-problematisch-ist-der-bau-v...
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
    I think the demand was peak demand, so all you need to reduce that is a) accept it as a bottleneck and slow the most water intensive process to spread the peak out, or b) add a buffer pool.
ulfw 5y ago
Germany gets round about 750mm of rain a year, Taiwan 2500mm.
- estaseuropano 5y ago
  Taiwan is a tiny area compared to the diversity you get in Germany, which has very diverse weather across regions, significant rivers, accessible groundwater, etc.
boruto 5y ago
In Berlin there is water which even the city doesn't want. :)) http://allsinkscherman.blogspot.com/2013/02/berlin-water-pipes-you-dont-smoke.html?m=1 http://allsinkscherman.blogspot.com/2013/02/berlin-water-pip...

MarcusE1W 5y ago

I am not sure that it is a bad thing that a company, any company really is not allowed to play fast and loose with the environment they operate in. It’s not that the relevant laws are a secret and used to club you over the head once you nicely settled in and set up everything to your own advantage