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Agree. I also live in Norway and have done for years. I can get - to work (bike or bus + train + 1km walk), - to the shop (walk or bike), - to many of my fr

Agree. I also live in Norway and have done for years. I can get - to work (bike or bus + train + 1km walk), - to the shop (walk or bike), - to many of my friends (walk or bike), - to the town center (bus or bike) quite comfortably alone, and I think at least except winter most (by number) of my trips is car free. But good look getting 5 kids somewhere where there isn't a bus line (soccer, ice hockey, activities, church, in-laws house, frinds across town, fishing).

varjag 5y ago
I live in 2nd largest city, and 11 km drive from work. If I want to take public transport, I first have to take a bus going once per hour, switch to another bus going into opposite direction, and then take a third bus to work. Bus can be a bit late so am not making the connection, or sometimes a connecting bus not showing up. Then you stand another 20 minutes in the rain (it usually rains here) on the shoulder of a motorway. I could also cycle in theory; however my home is 88 meters over sea level and my work in 100+ on another hill. Did I also mention it rains a lot? Some people like the challenge and do it anyway (but virtually none does that every day). I can't be arsed to sweat out on my way to the office though. And yes that's before you get to having kids. Or living outside a city: then you have a bus on one route going maybe 2-4 times a day.
- masklinn 5y ago
  > I could also cycle in theory; however my home is 88 meters over sea level and my work in 100+ on another hill. Did I also mention it rains a lot? Some people like the challenge and do it anyway (but virtually none does that every day). I can't be arsed to sweat out on my way to the office though. TBF electric bicycles help a lot with the latter, and the usual “there’s no bad weather only bad clothing” norwegian saying definitely applies. But that’s assuming the infrastructure matches, cycling in the rain when well-equipped is one thing, cycling in the rain dodging cars and getting sprayed is quite an other.
  - varjag 5y ago
    The infrastructure is decent, only the last mile stretch (uphill of course) is shared with car traffic. Still it's not a relaxing ride, and would probably double my commute time even with an e-bike. As I mentioned there are people doing that anyway, but even the hardcore cyclist types are doing it only a few days in a month.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  I lived there too and I can vaguely remember getting from Fyllingsdalen to Sotra at night by bus while bringing my mopping gear :-\

varjag 5y ago

I live in 2nd largest city, and 11 km drive from work. If I want to take public transport, I first have to take a bus going once per hour, switch to another bus going into opposite direction, and then take a third bus to work. Bus can be a bit late so am not making the connection, or sometimes a connecting bus not showing up. Then you stand another 20 minutes in the rain (it usually rains here) on the shoulder of a motorway. I could also cycle in theory; however my home is 88 meters over sea level and my work in 100+ on another hill. Did I also mention it rains a lot? Some people like the challenge and do it anyway (but virtually none does that every day). I can't be arsed to sweat out on my way to the office though. And yes that's before you get to having kids. Or living outside a city: then you have a bus on one route going maybe 2-4 times a day.

masklinn 5y ago
> I could also cycle in theory; however my home is 88 meters over sea level and my work in 100+ on another hill. Did I also mention it rains a lot? Some people like the challenge and do it anyway (but virtually none does that every day). I can't be arsed to sweat out on my way to the office though. TBF electric bicycles help a lot with the latter, and the usual “there’s no bad weather only bad clothing” norwegian saying definitely applies. But that’s assuming the infrastructure matches, cycling in the rain when well-equipped is one thing, cycling in the rain dodging cars and getting sprayed is quite an other.
- varjag 5y ago
  The infrastructure is decent, only the last mile stretch (uphill of course) is shared with car traffic. Still it's not a relaxing ride, and would probably double my commute time even with an e-bike. As I mentioned there are people doing that anyway, but even the hardcore cyclist types are doing it only a few days in a month.
skinkestek 5y ago
I lived there too and I can vaguely remember getting from Fyllingsdalen to Sotra at night by bus while bringing my mopping gear :-\