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If you want to (also) backup remotely (the server don't have access to encrypted data), I would recommend some borg-specific hosts: - Rsync.net: https://www.rs

by rom1v 5y ago

If you want to (also) backup remotely (the server don't have access to encrypted data), I would recommend some borg-specific hosts: - Rsync.net: https://www.rsync.net/ https://www.rsync.net/ - BorgBase: https://www.borgbase.com/ https://www.borgbase.com/ - Lima-Labs: https://storage.lima-labs.com/ https://storage.lima-labs.com/ - others? (I'm not affiliated in any way, I'm just a client of one of them.)

martijnvds 5y ago
Hetzner's "storage box" product also supports Borg backups: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box
- sildur 5y ago
  Thanks! I had no idea, this is going to simplify my backups a lot.
wasmitnetzen 5y ago
Mhm, BorgBase looks a bit fishy. It is based in Malta, but why? For "tax efficiency"? They share the office address with [1] and the CEO of the parent company PeakFord[2] seems to be a CEO-for-hire[3]. Their GDPR page[4] mentions that they are not based in the EU and want to use the German privacy regulator. Malta is very much part of the EU. [1]: https://opes.com.mt/corporate-services/ https://opes.com.mt/corporate-services/ [2]: https://www.peakford.com/about/ https://www.peakford.com/about/ [3]: https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/56060344 https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/56060344 [4]: https://www.borgbase.com/gdpr https://www.borgbase.com/gdpr
- m3nu 5y ago
  BorgBase founder here. All correct what you found. I started the company from the US via YC startup school in 2018, but later decided to place myself in Europe again. Hence moving the incorporation to the EU made sense. My director is handling the commercial aspect, like VAT, taxes and banking. Myself, I maintain our open source projects like Vorta, our Ansible role and macOS packaging for Borg. Hope this helps to clear your reservations. I should update our GDPR page with regard to the regulator. That's outdated by now.
  - wasmitnetzen 5y ago
    Thanks for the reply. I guess a tech person not wanting to have anything to do with bureaucracy just looks similar to an attempt at tax evasion from the outside.
  - pmarreck 5y ago
    Do you have any advice for a technical 1-dev-army who wants to expand out to a small product-focused team and outsource (most of) the commercial and sales aspects to a partner? Thanks for being a class act, based just on your presence here I might go Borg for a backup solution in the near future
    - m3nu 5y ago
      Such a big question.. Here from least to most involved based on my experience: If you only need incorporation, accounting and taxes solved, you can just pay ~hourly. Price will depend on time spent. Budget more in the beginning to find a good setup that will save time later. Accountants generally know very little about automation opportunities, so you need to find them yourself. For sales positions, I'd always go for results-based compensation (like awarding equity as results are reached). If the person does more than pure sales, you need a non-tech cofounder with some equity and the task to build commercial processes, do sales, decide features. What you need will depend very much on your own skills and the product. Some stories: For my first startup, a physical consumer product, I had an equal partner with complementary skills who was very involved in product dev and sales. This worked well. Later, in two other startups, I had technical cofounders and there was nobody to do sales and collect feedback. Worked less well obviously. Hope this helps a bit and good luck with your idea!
- rsync 5y ago
  "Mhm, BorgBase looks a bit fishy." I don't think it is - it has been around for several years and appears to be completely legit. CEO is based in Hong Kong (I think) and appears to be more "international" than perhaps you or I are. He is relatively active here and on reddit. I hope to call him up and meet for a drink next time I am building things in HK ...
  - harryvederci 5y ago
    You're awesome for defending one of your competitors like this.
  - m3nu 5y ago
    Wow! Thanks for the kind words and reference!! Much appreciated. :-)) Will PM for drinks and to link up. I still love how friendly everyone in IT and around backups specifically is. More international for sure. But with Covid last year and offspring on the way this year, we are looking to spend more time in Europe closer to family. Hence the change of incorporation earlier this year.
- uselpa 5y ago
  Customer for several years of Borgbase here. I can assure you the service and the support are very good, and Manu does a good job. Would recommend.
  - js4ever 5y ago
    Same here, I'm using them since 6 months and I'm very happy with the service, support is great as well :)
    - ssklash 5y ago
      Multi year user here, nothing but good experiences with them.
pnutjam 5y ago
I use Time4vps storage boxes. They are the best deal I could find. I have a 1TB one that I've used for a couple years.<br> https://www.time4vps.com/?affid=1881&_ga=2.61032364.1281204415.1627309838-2018002686.1627309837 https://www.time4vps.com/?affid=1881&_ga=2.61032364.12812044... - (referral link) https://www.time4vps.com https://www.time4vps.com no affiliate link for time4vps

by rom1v 5y ago

martijnvds 5y ago

Hetzner's "storage box" product also supports Borg backups: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box

sildur 5y ago
Thanks! I had no idea, this is going to simplify my backups a lot.

wasmitnetzen 5y ago

Mhm, BorgBase looks a bit fishy. It is based in Malta, but why? For "tax efficiency"? They share the office address with [1] and the CEO of the parent company PeakFord[2] seems to be a CEO-for-hire[3]. Their GDPR page[4] mentions that they are not based in the EU and want to use the German privacy regulator. Malta is very much part of the EU. [1]: https://opes.com.mt/corporate-services/ https://opes.com.mt/corporate-services/ [2]: https://www.peakford.com/about/ https://www.peakford.com/about/ [3]: https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/56060344 https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/56060344 [4]: https://www.borgbase.com/gdpr https://www.borgbase.com/gdpr

m3nu 5y ago
BorgBase founder here. All correct what you found. I started the company from the US via YC startup school in 2018, but later decided to place myself in Europe again. Hence moving the incorporation to the EU made sense. My director is handling the commercial aspect, like VAT, taxes and banking. Myself, I maintain our open source projects like Vorta, our Ansible role and macOS packaging for Borg. Hope this helps to clear your reservations. I should update our GDPR page with regard to the regulator. That's outdated by now.
- wasmitnetzen 5y ago
  Thanks for the reply. I guess a tech person not wanting to have anything to do with bureaucracy just looks similar to an attempt at tax evasion from the outside.
- pmarreck 5y ago
  Do you have any advice for a technical 1-dev-army who wants to expand out to a small product-focused team and outsource (most of) the commercial and sales aspects to a partner? Thanks for being a class act, based just on your presence here I might go Borg for a backup solution in the near future
  - m3nu 5y ago
    Such a big question.. Here from least to most involved based on my experience: If you only need incorporation, accounting and taxes solved, you can just pay ~hourly. Price will depend on time spent. Budget more in the beginning to find a good setup that will save time later. Accountants generally know very little about automation opportunities, so you need to find them yourself. For sales positions, I'd always go for results-based compensation (like awarding equity as results are reached). If the person does more than pure sales, you need a non-tech cofounder with some equity and the task to build commercial processes, do sales, decide features. What you need will depend very much on your own skills and the product. Some stories: For my first startup, a physical consumer product, I had an equal partner with complementary skills who was very involved in product dev and sales. This worked well. Later, in two other startups, I had technical cofounders and there was nobody to do sales and collect feedback. Worked less well obviously. Hope this helps a bit and good luck with your idea!
rsync 5y ago
"Mhm, BorgBase looks a bit fishy." I don't think it is - it has been around for several years and appears to be completely legit. CEO is based in Hong Kong (I think) and appears to be more "international" than perhaps you or I are. He is relatively active here and on reddit. I hope to call him up and meet for a drink next time I am building things in HK ...
- harryvederci 5y ago
  You're awesome for defending one of your competitors like this.
- m3nu 5y ago
  Wow! Thanks for the kind words and reference!! Much appreciated. :-)) Will PM for drinks and to link up. I still love how friendly everyone in IT and around backups specifically is. More international for sure. But with Covid last year and offspring on the way this year, we are looking to spend more time in Europe closer to family. Hence the change of incorporation earlier this year.
uselpa 5y ago
Customer for several years of Borgbase here. I can assure you the service and the support are very good, and Manu does a good job. Would recommend.
- js4ever 5y ago
  Same here, I'm using them since 6 months and I'm very happy with the service, support is great as well :)
  - ssklash 5y ago
    Multi year user here, nothing but good experiences with them.

pnutjam 5y ago

I use Time4vps storage boxes. They are the best deal I could find. I have a 1TB one that I've used for a couple years.<br> https://www.time4vps.com/?affid=1881&_ga=2.61032364.1281204415.1627309838-2018002686.1627309837 https://www.time4vps.com/?affid=1881&_ga=2.61032364.12812044... - (referral link) https://www.time4vps.com https://www.time4vps.com no affiliate link for time4vps