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I have an strategy of two pronunciations for my name (Jaime, it's a Spanish name): - Quick chats, like answering your name at Starbucks, talking with the elect

I have an strategy of two pronunciations for my name (Jaime, it's a Spanish name): - Quick chats, like answering your name at Starbucks, talking with the electric company on the phone, etc. I use directly the English pronunciation of my name (like Jamie). It's faster, easier and who cares, frankly... Gratefully, I can now use "wrote as Lanister" and fix some writing problems - With more meaningful relationships, like coworkers or acquaintances that I will be talking several times, etc, the only thing that I care about is an honest try. Most people tends to have problems with the ending vowel, and the initial "hard H" sound, so it sounds more like "Hi-me", but that's absolutely no problem. Different languages have different sounds, and I mispronounce things all the time. All I care about it's the other person putting a bit of effort into it, but that's about it...

happy_path 5y ago
Good idea. Establishing a relationship between your name and with some named thing of the real world: a TV series character, a city, etc.
- throwaway287391 5y ago
  I get your point but I like that you describe the name of a character in a fictional TV show as a "thing of the real world", as compared to the name of a coworker you speak with regularly. :p
  - happy_path 5y ago
    Well, maybe "thing of their culture" would have been a more appropiate term.
eyko 5y ago
Same boat here. Vicente in Spanish so I go by Vincent most of the time (either the english or the French pronounciations, I don't care). Most people see my name in Spanish and pronounce it like it was Italian ("Vinchente", they always add an N). I've never been bothered by it one bit, at least they tried. For the curious, the correct pronounciation is either "Vee-sen-teh" or with the spanish voiceless-dental-fricative θ[1] "Vee-θen-teh". If you ever bought into this idea that mispronouncing someone's unfamiliar/foreign name is somehow rude or racist or an extension of white supremacy/privilege, you should see how english names and surnames are pronounced in non-english speaking countries. People give it their best shot and fail, that's all there is to it. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_fricative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_fricative
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  Yup. Take Bob; in English, especially American English it's pronounced like "Baawhb" (exaggerated, weirdly phonetic), but over here (Dutch) it would be pronounced as "Bop", with a very short / clipped O sound. Of course there's also names that have transformed to nearly unrecognizable forms; George over here has evolved into Sjors (or the other way around?), John into Sjon, etc.
  - eyko 5y ago
    Another interesting one: James and Jacob are the same name (from the Hebrew Yaʿqob), and in spanish it's either found as "Jaime", "Jacobo" or "Santiago" which comes from "Saint Iago" (Iago being an old spanish conversion of the Latin "Iacobus" which came to other romance languages as Yago, Iaco, Jacob, Yacobo, Jacobo etc). The "J" consonant leads to many interesting things because of how many pronounciations it has. It can be an english "J" or the softer latin "J" (identical to an I) or an in between Y which could be between an english J and SH. In current spanish, however, the J is pronounced as the "voiceless velar fricative"[1] (a very strong H?), so whilst the name started sounding like "Iacobo", it's now a very firm HHakobo. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative
    - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
      I belive San Diego could also be translated back to Saint James or any of those other variants but there's some other odd step or two in between that I can't remember right now. Ah it turns out that may not be true, though widely believed for the last couple of centuries: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Diego#Spanish https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Diego#Spanish The one that shocked me the most was the number of different names that I associated with different countries that all turned out just to be variations on John. Ivan, Ian, Euan, Hans, Sean, Jens, Juan, Yiannis, Giovanni, Evan, Ifan, Janko, Ivanko and many more https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name)#In_other_languages https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name)#In_other_l...
    - LegitShady 5y ago

happy_path 5y ago

Good idea. Establishing a relationship between your name and with some named thing of the real world: a TV series character, a city, etc.

throwaway287391 5y ago
I get your point but I like that you describe the name of a character in a fictional TV show as a "thing of the real world", as compared to the name of a coworker you speak with regularly. :p
- happy_path 5y ago
  Well, maybe "thing of their culture" would have been a more appropiate term.

eyko 5y ago

Same boat here. Vicente in Spanish so I go by Vincent most of the time (either the english or the French pronounciations, I don't care). Most people see my name in Spanish and pronounce it like it was Italian ("Vinchente", they always add an N). I've never been bothered by it one bit, at least they tried. For the curious, the correct pronounciation is either "Vee-sen-teh" or with the spanish voiceless-dental-fricative θ[1] "Vee-θen-teh". If you ever bought into this idea that mispronouncing someone's unfamiliar/foreign name is somehow rude or racist or an extension of white supremacy/privilege, you should see how english names and surnames are pronounced in non-english speaking countries. People give it their best shot and fail, that's all there is to it. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_fricative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_fricative

Cthulhu_ 5y ago
Yup. Take Bob; in English, especially American English it's pronounced like "Baawhb" (exaggerated, weirdly phonetic), but over here (Dutch) it would be pronounced as "Bop", with a very short / clipped O sound. Of course there's also names that have transformed to nearly unrecognizable forms; George over here has evolved into Sjors (or the other way around?), John into Sjon, etc.
- eyko 5y ago
  Another interesting one: James and Jacob are the same name (from the Hebrew Yaʿqob), and in spanish it's either found as "Jaime", "Jacobo" or "Santiago" which comes from "Saint Iago" (Iago being an old spanish conversion of the Latin "Iacobus" which came to other romance languages as Yago, Iaco, Jacob, Yacobo, Jacobo etc). The "J" consonant leads to many interesting things because of how many pronounciations it has. It can be an english "J" or the softer latin "J" (identical to an I) or an in between Y which could be between an english J and SH. In current spanish, however, the J is pronounced as the "voiceless velar fricative"[1] (a very strong H?), so whilst the name started sounding like "Iacobo", it's now a very firm HHakobo. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative
  - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
    I belive San Diego could also be translated back to Saint James or any of those other variants but there's some other odd step or two in between that I can't remember right now. Ah it turns out that may not be true, though widely believed for the last couple of centuries: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Diego#Spanish https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Diego#Spanish The one that shocked me the most was the number of different names that I associated with different countries that all turned out just to be variations on John. Ivan, Ian, Euan, Hans, Sean, Jens, Juan, Yiannis, Giovanni, Evan, Ifan, Janko, Ivanko and many more https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name)#In_other_languages https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name)#In_other_l...
  - LegitShady 5y ago