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Fair enough, but in the case of PHP, the target that XSS attacks are after are not the PHP sites themselves most of the time, but weaponizing those for c&c atta
by tannhaeuser 5y ago
Fair enough, but in the case of PHP, the target that XSS attacks are after are not the PHP sites themselves most of the time, but weaponizing those for c&c attacks on third-party sites. Thus merely using PHP, with its well-known combination of copy/paste culture, popularity among newbs, and poor security practices opens site owners up to liability claims (if nothing else, such as gross negligence with PII). And PHP's defense is weak, with not even an attempt to bring its built-in web templating into something that could remotely be called state of the art, considering that eg SGML is 35 years old.
Not saying this to diss PHPers; in fact, I like the PHP community for their get stuff done mentality, and I think they deserve better. If I were contracting for PHP, though, I'd make sure to negotiate strong liability disclaimers.
- gregjor 5y agoAre you aware of an actual case of an owner of a web site getting sued because their site was used to attack other sites, without their knowledge? This could (and has) happened with other tools besides PHP. Is Microsoft liable because Windows is used as a launchpad for attacks?
- tannhaeuser 5y agoIANAL, much less a judge, but I think there's a plausible legal theory for suing isn't there?