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It's fine to dislike Haiku because it doesn't run on your hardware, but it's pretty ridiculous to assert it isn't an OS because it "can't run on an actual compu

• handelaar 5y ago
  It's never once started on anything I own. For over a decade. The most voted-on item in its bug tracker has 9 votes on it. RiscOS (which was a wilfully-obtuse comparison on my part, but since you're digging in [edit: in fact, creating an account on HN for no reason except to promote it on this thread], I'll run with it for your benefit) has without question already actually run on a number of devices -- though granted, not types of devices -- at least one or two orders of magnitude larger than this thing ever will, at the rate it's going.
  • pakyr 5y ago
    Like I said, it sucks that it doesn't start on anything you own, which doesn't take away from the fact that there's literally a massive list of hardware it does actually run on. And you're right, I created an account to comment on this thread. If you think disagreeing with you on this means I'm "promoting" Haiku as some sort of shill (my two points were literally that it's an OS and it boots on hardware, how controversial) then you're entitled to your opinion I guess.
    • handelaar 5y ago
      Why, when it basically apparently doesn't run on laptops, and when it fails to start it provides no hint whatsoever about what to do next, is there no information about what to do next anywhere on the Haiku web site? Why, if your position is that there's a list of hardware (a very well-hidden one, I might add) on which I should be running this, is that list not front-and-centre so I don't waste my time trying to boot it on anything else? Why, to put it more briefly, does Haiku insist on being treated as a serious operating system when it simultaneously clearly runs on less stuff than most other OSes and yet requires us to pretend that it's in the same class as those other OSes? (This doesn't happen with ReactOS. But then they don't have the social disability of resolutely insisting that we all pay attention to them as a Very Important Thing.) [edit: I forgot the big one: after over eleven years would it kill them to at least once spit out a fucking error message? Or is the total lack of information with which a person could file a useful bug report in fact the intent?]
      • ofrzeta 5y ago
        Why are you so upset? I would be if I absolutely required running something and it didn't work. Probably something I paid a lot of money for. But I wouldn't expect that from a hobbyist OS.
      • pakyr 5y ago
        It's not my 'position' that there's a list of hardware; there literally is one (edit: and it's not exhaustive). I really don't see how Haiku "requires" you to take it seriously. It's clearly marked as beta. Even though I disagree with those who might call it daily driver-ready, I don't understand the source of this hostility. If you don't want to "waste your time" with it, then don't. It's beta software developed by volunteers, none of whom are forcing you to download their OS. Also, if these instructions (https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/welcome/en/bugreports.html#kernel https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/welcome/en/bugreports.html#ker...) don't help you with your bug report, then I dunno what to tell you, I guess the gods have decided you shouldn't use Haiku.
      • kasumispencer2 5y ago
        > when it basically apparently doesn't run on laptops i had an old laptop that runs just fine (albeit with a tiny bit of fiddling). you're free not to believe me though, it's your opinion after all. > requires us to pretend that it's in the same class as those other OSes? lmfao, did they ever? shut up and get your shit together.
      • papacho 5y ago
        you should give introspection a try.
      • anthk 5y ago
        ReactOS support it's utter crap compared to Haiku. I could run Haiku in my Celeron pretty fast up to the point on being able to open 4K videos on Intel Mobile 4 series with some qt5 video player. As crazy as it sounds.
      • AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
        Get used to this reaction. Unfortunately, as much as open source software communities want their products to be taken seriously, they will invariably react this way to negative feedback. "works for me", "pick better hardware", etc.
• anilakar 5y ago
  I think the issue is that most spare computers people have at hand are old laptops, which tend to have really finicky hardware when compared to what desktops usually have.
  • soapdog 5y ago
    I'm running it on a x230 and it works great. I actually don't remember it not working on any of my old pcs.