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> This is an achievement to be proud of. I mean I'm all for reducing power consumption, but is having a mild climate an achievement to be proud of? I'd guess t

> This is an achievement to be proud of. I mean I'm all for reducing power consumption, but is having a mild climate an achievement to be proud of? I'd guess that California's main population centers have fewer degree days away from 72 F than any other state in the country. By default, you'd expect their power consumption to be the very lowest. (The other states close to CA in consumption per capita have much worse climates, but their people live in denser urban centers and have smaller, likely more efficient dwellings.)

627ruffu 5y ago
Lots of athletes are proud of their rankings despite generally having genetic advantages. Fourth from the bottom per-capita is fourth from the bottom per-capita regardless of how you achieve it.
floatingatoll 5y ago
It’s not looking like a mild climate anymore, if that offers any comfort.
- mlindner 5y ago
  As someone who lives here, no, it's quite mild.
paulddraper 5y ago
Talking to Californians is otherworldly. I had one tell me that everywhere should put street signs on the roadway itself. Had no concept of what snow was apparently.
- ajtjp 5y ago
  We put street signs on highways in Ohio. Quite handy for knowing whether you're in the correct lane, as it doesn't have the ambiguity that overhead signs can have. Of course, we do also have overhead signs as a backup and for longer-range visibility. But it's more likely that the overhead signs are useless due to a setting sun than that the on-road ones are due to snow. The streets with on-road signs are very high priorities to plow, so the on-road signs are going to be visible unless it's a very bad storm where you probably shouldn't be on the road, and if you are you're probably going home and already know which lanes to be in. I'm not saying this should be done for every road; it works best for roads known by a number (I-71; US-23; OH-315, etc.) where you don't have to read a long name. But it's not an daft as idea as it might sound.
  - floatingatoll 5y ago
    I believe California does some of this in the really complex interchanges in the Bay Area, but I don't remember for certain and it's been years since I've been there.

627ruffu 5y ago

Lots of athletes are proud of their rankings despite generally having genetic advantages. Fourth from the bottom per-capita is fourth from the bottom per-capita regardless of how you achieve it.

floatingatoll 5y ago

It’s not looking like a mild climate anymore, if that offers any comfort.

mlindner 5y ago
As someone who lives here, no, it's quite mild.

paulddraper 5y ago

Talking to Californians is otherworldly. I had one tell me that everywhere should put street signs on the roadway itself. Had no concept of what snow was apparently.

ajtjp 5y ago
We put street signs on highways in Ohio. Quite handy for knowing whether you're in the correct lane, as it doesn't have the ambiguity that overhead signs can have. Of course, we do also have overhead signs as a backup and for longer-range visibility. But it's more likely that the overhead signs are useless due to a setting sun than that the on-road ones are due to snow. The streets with on-road signs are very high priorities to plow, so the on-road signs are going to be visible unless it's a very bad storm where you probably shouldn't be on the road, and if you are you're probably going home and already know which lanes to be in. I'm not saying this should be done for every road; it works best for roads known by a number (I-71; US-23; OH-315, etc.) where you don't have to read a long name. But it's not an daft as idea as it might sound.
- floatingatoll 5y ago
  I believe California does some of this in the really complex interchanges in the Bay Area, but I don't remember for certain and it's been years since I've been there.