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I'm tired of "activism" to restore my freedoms. I've allowed politicians to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if they come after my PC and homelab, it's tim

I'm tired of "activism" to restore my freedoms. I've allowed politicians to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if they come after my PC and homelab, it's time to water the Tree of Liberty.

pcwalton 5y ago
> I've allowed politicians to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if they come after my PC and homelab, it's time to water the Tree of Liberty. Are we advocating for murder on this site now? Really?
- CamperBob2 5y ago
  You don't have to like it, but the right of the people to rise up against an oppressive government is a founding principle of the US. That sentiment was all well and good back in the 18th and 19th century. But in the next civil war, the Mason-Dixon Line will run through your and my back yard.
  - emodendroket 5y ago
    I am going to be honest. I think the overlap between people for whom PC energy regulations are the last straw and people willing and able to go through the privations a civil war is sure to bring, particularly to the combatants, is pretty small.
    - salawat 5y ago
      You have no idea how powerful "Live Free or Die" is. There is a reason the Declaration of Independence went to Great Lengths to articulate, and warn, future generations that it is their Right and Duty to rise against a tyrannical Government. I'll be frank. The promulgation of "It's for your own good" types continue chipping away at liberties which should be some of the most prized things we cherish as a nation, has put an edge on life I've seen no precedent for in my life excepting firearm regulations, and plotted against a curve over time, it's only becoming faster to implement, more hospitable in the National Rhetoric, and less transparent as the Government goes the route of ignoring getting buy-in from the populace at large and contents itself with Industry collusions through influencing the means of production.
      - emodendroket 5y ago
        I'm actually kind of tired of people waving around Gadsden flags and getting to make life unlivable (sometimes literally) for everyone else. Freedom can be conceived of in more than one way and not all of them are compatible with each other.
- cbozeman 5y ago
  > > I've allowed the King to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if he comes after stamps, it's time to water the Tree of Liberty. > Are we advocating for murder in this pub now? Really? An early American exchange. Probably.

I'm tired of "activism" to restore my freedoms. I've allowed politicians to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if they come after my PC and homelab, it's time to water the Tree of Liberty.

pcwalton 5y ago

> I've allowed politicians to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if they come after my PC and homelab, it's time to water the Tree of Liberty. Are we advocating for murder on this site now? Really?

CamperBob2 5y ago
You don't have to like it, but the right of the people to rise up against an oppressive government is a founding principle of the US. That sentiment was all well and good back in the 18th and 19th century. But in the next civil war, the Mason-Dixon Line will run through your and my back yard.
- emodendroket 5y ago
  I am going to be honest. I think the overlap between people for whom PC energy regulations are the last straw and people willing and able to go through the privations a civil war is sure to bring, particularly to the combatants, is pretty small.
  - salawat 5y ago
    You have no idea how powerful "Live Free or Die" is. There is a reason the Declaration of Independence went to Great Lengths to articulate, and warn, future generations that it is their Right and Duty to rise against a tyrannical Government. I'll be frank. The promulgation of "It's for your own good" types continue chipping away at liberties which should be some of the most prized things we cherish as a nation, has put an edge on life I've seen no precedent for in my life excepting firearm regulations, and plotted against a curve over time, it's only becoming faster to implement, more hospitable in the National Rhetoric, and less transparent as the Government goes the route of ignoring getting buy-in from the populace at large and contents itself with Industry collusions through influencing the means of production.
    - emodendroket 5y ago
      I'm actually kind of tired of people waving around Gadsden flags and getting to make life unlivable (sometimes literally) for everyone else. Freedom can be conceived of in more than one way and not all of them are compatible with each other.
cbozeman 5y ago
> > I've allowed the King to get away with a lot of bullshit, but if he comes after stamps, it's time to water the Tree of Liberty. > Are we advocating for murder in this pub now? Really? An early American exchange. Probably.