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This is a $1100 computer, not a $2M car.

by neolog 5y ago

JoshTriplett 5y ago
It makes a lot more sense to ban a car (regardless of price) for polluting the environment we all breathe and contributing to global warming, than it does to ban a computer that uses power the end user pays for by the kilowatt.
- neolog 5y ago
  Car end-users pay for petroleum too. Anyway the laptop is probably not actually banned. Dell's probably trying to hit a threshold for eco tax benefits or something.
- bradlys 5y ago
  > It makes a lot more sense to ban a car (regardless of price) for polluting the environment we all breathe and contributing to global warming, than it does to ban a computer that uses power the end user pays for by the kilowatt. What? That makes no sense. Unless you're off the grid and using solar - where do you think the electricity from your outlets comes from? People still pay for the car and the gas - just like you do for the electricity that is result of work that pumps shit into the air too.
  - JoshTriplett 5y ago
    > where do you think the electricity from your outlets comes from Power generation sources that can and should be made cleaner. And those sources can be made cleaner regardless of how much individuals use (and pay for). > People still pay for the car and the gas - just like you do for the electricity that is result of work that pumps shit into the air too. An individual's selection of vehicle directly affects carbon emissions in a way that can't be mitigated in a society-wide fashion. Electrical power generation, on the other hand, can get cleaner without the end user changing anything. So it makes more sense to have regulations about the carbon emissions on a car. A laptop doesn't have carbon emissions directly, it just uses electricity, so at a societal level that seems better managed by improving electricity generation.
- seoaeu 5y ago
  Vehicle owners pay for gas by the gallon...
- pc86 5y ago
  I'm absolutely positive that the total carbon emissions from mid-grade retail gaming laptops outpaces the carbon emissions from super high-end luxury sports cars by a couple orders of magnitude at least. I'd be shocked if the ~25 Bugatti Veyrons in existence drive a collective 250 miles per years, compared to how many tens of thousands of wannabe streamers drop $1-1.5k on a shitty Dell every year?

This is a $1100 computer, not a $2M car.

by neolog 5y ago

This is a $1100 computer, not a $2M car.

It makes a lot more sense to ban a car (regardless of price) for polluting the environment we all breathe and contributing to global warming, than it does to ban a computer that uses power the end user pays for by the kilowatt.

neolog 5y ago
Car end-users pay for petroleum too. Anyway the laptop is probably not actually banned. Dell's probably trying to hit a threshold for eco tax benefits or something.
bradlys 5y ago
> It makes a lot more sense to ban a car (regardless of price) for polluting the environment we all breathe and contributing to global warming, than it does to ban a computer that uses power the end user pays for by the kilowatt. What? That makes no sense. Unless you're off the grid and using solar - where do you think the electricity from your outlets comes from? People still pay for the car and the gas - just like you do for the electricity that is result of work that pumps shit into the air too.
- JoshTriplett 5y ago
  > where do you think the electricity from your outlets comes from Power generation sources that can and should be made cleaner. And those sources can be made cleaner regardless of how much individuals use (and pay for). > People still pay for the car and the gas - just like you do for the electricity that is result of work that pumps shit into the air too. An individual's selection of vehicle directly affects carbon emissions in a way that can't be mitigated in a society-wide fashion. Electrical power generation, on the other hand, can get cleaner without the end user changing anything. So it makes more sense to have regulations about the carbon emissions on a car. A laptop doesn't have carbon emissions directly, it just uses electricity, so at a societal level that seems better managed by improving electricity generation.
seoaeu 5y ago
Vehicle owners pay for gas by the gallon...
pc86 5y ago
I'm absolutely positive that the total carbon emissions from mid-grade retail gaming laptops outpaces the carbon emissions from super high-end luxury sports cars by a couple orders of magnitude at least. I'd be shocked if the ~25 Bugatti Veyrons in existence drive a collective 250 miles per years, compared to how many tens of thousands of wannabe streamers drop $1-1.5k on a shitty Dell every year?