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There's a difference between having the option to wear something less covering (be it to show off, for its' functionalities or whatever) versus being forced wea

There's a difference between having the option to wear something less covering (be it to show off, for its' functionalities or whatever) versus being forced wear something that is skimpy by design.

wegs 5y ago
Sex sells. The Olympics is fundamentally about eyeballs. Is it okay to have strip clubs? Is it okay to hire scantily-clad women for ads? In movies? Where are the lines? I'm not sure where we want the lines, but: * I don't like the lines drawn based on one-off issues going viral. I'd like a consistent set of lines. * I feel like it's unreasonable to expect organizations to not follow the Smith's free hand of capitalism. "Good" organizations are out-competed by "bad" ones. Is this a place where we might have a serious discussion about a new regulatory regime, or otherwise changing market forces and incentive structures? I feel like that might be a slower, but more comprehensive, more equitable, and more sustainable way of landing on fair ground. - More comprehensive: Reworking structures effects everyone, and not just Olympics. I'm at least as concerned about thousands of "Hooters girls" as about elite actresses and athletes. - More equitable: Good businesses don't get punished. Bad ones don't get rewarded. - More sustainable: Market forces should push for the behavior we want. Otherwise, it's like fighting the ocean.
alanwreath 5y ago
Agreed. The similarity I see between these two (which is what I think at least partially mc32 was getting at) is freedom of choice. Both are/were fighting for their freedom to choose. For better or worse it is always better to let freedom of expression be allowed. I’m not watching the olympics this year (not sure why) but I appreciate the Norwegian team’s expression: focus on my merit not my body. By threatening disqualification and/or fining they are denying at least some potential olympians from expressing themselves at the olympics. In essence they are being denied the ultimate “freedom of expression” of the human body - to compete in the olympics.
pyuser583 5y ago
When you’re talking about team uniforms, there isn’t always a choice.

There's a difference between having the option to wear something less covering (be it to show off, for its' functionalities or whatever) versus being forced wear something that is skimpy by design.

wegs 5y ago

Sex sells. The Olympics is fundamentally about eyeballs. Is it okay to have strip clubs? Is it okay to hire scantily-clad women for ads? In movies? Where are the lines? I'm not sure where we want the lines, but: * I don't like the lines drawn based on one-off issues going viral. I'd like a consistent set of lines. * I feel like it's unreasonable to expect organizations to not follow the Smith's free hand of capitalism. "Good" organizations are out-competed by "bad" ones. Is this a place where we might have a serious discussion about a new regulatory regime, or otherwise changing market forces and incentive structures? I feel like that might be a slower, but more comprehensive, more equitable, and more sustainable way of landing on fair ground. - More comprehensive: Reworking structures effects everyone, and not just Olympics. I'm at least as concerned about thousands of "Hooters girls" as about elite actresses and athletes. - More equitable: Good businesses don't get punished. Bad ones don't get rewarded. - More sustainable: Market forces should push for the behavior we want. Otherwise, it's like fighting the ocean.

alanwreath 5y ago

Agreed. The similarity I see between these two (which is what I think at least partially mc32 was getting at) is freedom of choice. Both are/were fighting for their freedom to choose. For better or worse it is always better to let freedom of expression be allowed. I’m not watching the olympics this year (not sure why) but I appreciate the Norwegian team’s expression: focus on my merit not my body. By threatening disqualification and/or fining they are denying at least some potential olympians from expressing themselves at the olympics. In essence they are being denied the ultimate “freedom of expression” of the human body - to compete in the olympics.

pyuser583 5y ago

When you’re talking about team uniforms, there isn’t always a choice.