We're veering from the topic of jobs no one wants to do. No, I didn't make any of my dishes (actually, maybe a butter knife) or make my own clothes, but I don't

We're veering from the topic of jobs no one wants to do. No, I didn't make any of my dishes (actually, maybe a butter knife) or make my own clothes, but I don't think these obviously qualify as jobs no one wants to do. I'd love to build my own home. There are people that enjoy woodworking, pottery, metal working, engineering... > The truth is that a society in which everyone is self-sufficient can’t look anything like modern society. That much I agree with. I don't propose total self sufficiency. I just think that dishes is a very bad example of a job that wouldn't get done if we didn't pay someone to do it and, more constructively, that a lot of jobs fall into this category. There is an obvious incentive for me to wash my dishes: I want my dishes to be clean before I use them. No one has ever paid me to wash dishes. I've washed dishes for myself, for friends and for family. Dishwashing is a good example of an ubiquitous chore that almost everyone does without any market incentive, which strikes me as the exact opposite of a job no one wants to do and which therefore has to be paid for. Work that most people actually really don't want to do is usually well paid for this reason. If you'd said hyperbaric welding instead of dishwashing I might be more inclined to agree that it needs more of an incentive than the mere satisfaction of meaningful work. > Most of the advancements we take for granted are made possible by monetary exchange It should not be a surprise that money plays an important part in a society where the allocation of labor is governed by money and those that have it. It does not follow from this observation that there can't be other sources of incentives to innovate and produce. It should also be mentioned in any discussion where the current state of production is touted as something we should aspire to that there are indications that the current mode and level of production is undustainable and harmful to the environment. It's perhaps something we should change, but the market evidently isn't creating effective incentives to do so. > And for what it’s worth, back in college I had several roommates who clearly demonstrated that not everyone is willing to do their own dishes. There's an important difference between jobs no one wants to do and jobs not everyone wants to do.