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The only thing he's missing out on is romance and sex. His occupation and lifestyle appears to satisfy all the other typical human needs. Taking a DSM perspecti

The only thing he's missing out on is romance and sex. His occupation and lifestyle appears to satisfy all the other typical human needs. Taking a DSM perspective is not the most enlightening perspective. The sex thing is a big problem. In the past, great artists were able to find companionship and sex despite poverty and oddness. Why is it that hackers have such difficulty? If Richard Stallman's medium was anything other than computers he would have to fight off the women, but somehow hackers are girl-repellent despite being devoted artistic geniuses? I don't think his devotion will last long or stay fresh unless he starts fulfilling sex and romance needs. Exposure like this NYT article should help, and also a rising income would help a lot. Then he still has to make time for women and he might find the intimacy too threatening. Anyway for the sake of Dwarf Fortress and his art ambitions I hope he figures out a way to fulfill sex needs. Other than that I don't see anything unsustainable or obviously unhealthy about his lifestyle.

marvin 15y ago
You've got it backwards. Women aren't scared of hackers, hackers are scared of women. This is a gross generalization, but it fits for the examples you mention. Yes, some nerds are completely unattractive and girl-repellent. But it doesn't take that much effort to become attractive, and a lot of hardcore computer guys are attracted to computers precisely because working with computers allows you to lead a solitary lifestyle with minimal social interaction. I'm certain that there were people before that were as scared of social interaction as the biggest hardcore nerds today, but they weren't working in a technical profession. Working with technical things 50 years ago required interacting with other humans much more than computers do, because the machinery in question was physical and more distributed.
- forensic 15y ago
  You're right. The issue is that for a woman to pick up one of these nerds she would have to be unusually aggressive in pursuing the nerd-genius and yet also unusually submissive since the nerd-genius (like any great artist) would have strange and demanding needs to which she would need to conform and satisfy. She'd have to be Courney Love, and there aren't many of those. And shed have to somehow meet the nerd despite his reclusively. The fear of girls is definitely what makes hacker geniuses more like monks than painters. I admire the crap out of great hackers but my sex needs come before my art.
  - marvin 15y ago
    my sex needs come before my art That's a good way to put it, that's how I feel as well ;) The monk analogy is really good; I'm guessing that monks were attracted to their lifestyle for the same reason the most introverted nerds are attracted to computers today.
  - JabavuAdams 15y ago
    Find a partner with equally strong passions. I.e. he/she understands that you need your time to geek out on your stuff because he/she needs the same thing.
saraid216 15y ago
>The sex thing is a big problem. Seriously? Not everyone in the world is a sex addict. He's living his own life. He'll look for what he needs when he needs it.
- forensic 15y ago
  Everyone in the world has needs for sex and romance. Some people have their needs unfulfilled or repressed, and they suffer for it. Sex is one of the most basic biological needs, and romantic intimacy (which is a part of good sex) is crucial for happiness, especially for a deeply social species like humans.
  - Crabe 15y ago
    Don't you think you're simplifying it a bit? Some people get along fine without having sex, you seem to suggest that anyone who doesn't have sex is bound to be unhappy and lead a horrible life. While for most people sex is important, I think you need to take a step back and look at how different people's needs can be.
  - Sharlin 15y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality NB. There's of course a gradient between complete asexuality and total 24/7 horniness. People are different.
bluekite2000 15y ago
You are making it sound it he CAN'T get girls. I m sure he can if he puts in the time. It is just not his priority right now. Time is limited. And he chose to devote his time to the game.
jarek 15y ago
Errr, have you considered the possibility he doesn't have sex needs, or that his sex needs are not as much as a "normal" human, or that his needs can't be fulfilled by "normal" humans?

marvin 15y ago

You've got it backwards. Women aren't scared of hackers, hackers are scared of women. This is a gross generalization, but it fits for the examples you mention. Yes, some nerds are completely unattractive and girl-repellent. But it doesn't take that much effort to become attractive, and a lot of hardcore computer guys are attracted to computers precisely because working with computers allows you to lead a solitary lifestyle with minimal social interaction. I'm certain that there were people before that were as scared of social interaction as the biggest hardcore nerds today, but they weren't working in a technical profession. Working with technical things 50 years ago required interacting with other humans much more than computers do, because the machinery in question was physical and more distributed.

forensic 15y ago
You're right. The issue is that for a woman to pick up one of these nerds she would have to be unusually aggressive in pursuing the nerd-genius and yet also unusually submissive since the nerd-genius (like any great artist) would have strange and demanding needs to which she would need to conform and satisfy. She'd have to be Courney Love, and there aren't many of those. And shed have to somehow meet the nerd despite his reclusively. The fear of girls is definitely what makes hacker geniuses more like monks than painters. I admire the crap out of great hackers but my sex needs come before my art.
- marvin 15y ago
  my sex needs come before my art That's a good way to put it, that's how I feel as well ;) The monk analogy is really good; I'm guessing that monks were attracted to their lifestyle for the same reason the most introverted nerds are attracted to computers today.
- JabavuAdams 15y ago
  Find a partner with equally strong passions. I.e. he/she understands that you need your time to geek out on your stuff because he/she needs the same thing.

saraid216 15y ago

>The sex thing is a big problem. Seriously? Not everyone in the world is a sex addict. He's living his own life. He'll look for what he needs when he needs it.

forensic 15y ago
Everyone in the world has needs for sex and romance. Some people have their needs unfulfilled or repressed, and they suffer for it. Sex is one of the most basic biological needs, and romantic intimacy (which is a part of good sex) is crucial for happiness, especially for a deeply social species like humans.
- Crabe 15y ago
  Don't you think you're simplifying it a bit? Some people get along fine without having sex, you seem to suggest that anyone who doesn't have sex is bound to be unhappy and lead a horrible life. While for most people sex is important, I think you need to take a step back and look at how different people's needs can be.
- Sharlin 15y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality NB. There's of course a gradient between complete asexuality and total 24/7 horniness. People are different.

bluekite2000 15y ago

You are making it sound it he CAN'T get girls. I m sure he can if he puts in the time. It is just not his priority right now. Time is limited. And he chose to devote his time to the game.

jarek 15y ago

Errr, have you considered the possibility he doesn't have sex needs, or that his sex needs are not as much as a "normal" human, or that his needs can't be fulfilled by "normal" humans?