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Yes even going back to Pearl Harbor, President Roosevelt rewrote his drafts of his speech to obscure the fact that the Philippines, a major site of the attack,

Yes even going back to Pearl Harbor, President Roosevelt rewrote his drafts of his speech to obscure the fact that the Philippines, a major site of the attack, was also a US colony. "How to Hide an Empire", Daniel Immerwahr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaKOOqXDnqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaKOOqXDnqA

cartoonworld 5y ago
Interesting, thanks. I just read this post on Popehat[0] recounting an event while Ken White was working for an LA federal judge back in the day. He was brought to a ceremony conducted by Judge Ronald S.W. Lew where numerous, VERY elderly Filipino WW2 veterans were granted US Citizenship. This was promised to them in addition to veteran's benefits by FDR in exchange for recruitment into the war effort, and after the war quietly swept under the rug by the congress. [0] - https://www.popehat.com/2020/07/04/the-fourth-of-july-rerun/ https://www.popehat.com/2020/07/04/the-fourth-of-july-rerun/
hadlock 5y ago
I was really surprised to find out, as an american, standing with feet on the ground in Manila, near age 30, having grown up in the US and gone to public schools, that the Philippines had been a US Territory off and on, on par with Puerto Rico, for about 50 years starting around 1898. There's even a big obelisk in the center of Union Square in San Francisco commemorating this event, it turns out. None of this was ever covered in public schools. I realize there's a lot of history to cover and kids can only absorb so much, but when people talk about "only focusing on europe and the middle east" it's good to have a couple of concrete examples. The Philippines actually has a larger english speaking population than the UK. Anyways, it always seemed that the Philippines got conveniently swept under the rug when discussing things like WW2 and American Imperialism.
- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  Yes certainly. I recently started listening to the audiobook A Peoples History of the United States and there is a LOT of history we don't cover. Right now I am listening to a talk by Noam Chomsky about inequality and it's remarkable that the top % of the wealthy that have control over the country also do not go to public schools. It's as if we have a second school system for the subservient class.
  - colordrops 5y ago
    Why do you think they are cancelling AP classes in San Francisco and California under the guise of social justice? It's to further weaken the underclass since the rich don't even go to public school.
    - barbacoa 5y ago
      Having gone to high school in California, we never covered Mexican-american or Spanish-american wars, civil war focused almost exclusively on slavery. 90% of WW2 was about Japanese internment or how racist nuking Japan was. History of Communism was never mentioned for obvious reasons.
    - raegis 5y ago
      > Why do you think they are cancelling AP classes in San Francisco and California under the guise of social justice? Can you document this? I'm a southern California resident, and I keep hearing stuff like this from people online, but I know no local examples of this at all.
      - colordrops 5y ago
        https://edsource.org/2021/california-math-guidance-sparks-new-curriculum-controversy-among-parents/655272 https://edsource.org/2021/california-math-guidance-sparks-ne... https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/why-university-california-dropping-sat/619522/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/why-univer...
        TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
        I read the first link and some supporting links like “a pathway to equitable math instruction”: https://equitablemath.org/ https://equitablemath.org/ This is…. Reprehensible
        alasdair_ 5y ago
        In what way?
- jessaustin 5y ago
  The Army ran out of Native Americans to massacre, so they arranged another indigenous group to terrorize for the next several decades. (It really was the same racist officers doing the same racist shit.) Some Filipinos had thought USA military would join them in overthrowing Spanish tyranny, but they soon discovered the actual intent was to replace Spain. Decent Americans like Mark Twain were horrified, but the war media was full of lies about subhuman savages who needed American government so most Americans had no idea. Plus ça change...
  - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
    In this context should point to the War Prayer https://warprayer.org/ https://warprayer.org/ which Twain probably wrote in response to the Spanish-American war.
- spfzero 5y ago
  Hmm, don’t know what school you went to, but in my American public school they certainly covered the Spanish-American war, and the consequent status of the Philippines. Spanish colony, turned over to the U.S., taken over by Japan, independant after WWII ended.
- pomian 5y ago
  An excellent source for USA/Philippine history, and other history is Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcasts. This one in particular for that topic: https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-49-the-american-peril/ https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-49-the-am... But all his podcasts are phenomenal

cartoonworld 5y ago

Interesting, thanks. I just read this post on Popehat[0] recounting an event while Ken White was working for an LA federal judge back in the day. He was brought to a ceremony conducted by Judge Ronald S.W. Lew where numerous, VERY elderly Filipino WW2 veterans were granted US Citizenship. This was promised to them in addition to veteran's benefits by FDR in exchange for recruitment into the war effort, and after the war quietly swept under the rug by the congress. [0] - https://www.popehat.com/2020/07/04/the-fourth-of-july-rerun/ https://www.popehat.com/2020/07/04/the-fourth-of-july-rerun/

hadlock 5y ago

I was really surprised to find out, as an american, standing with feet on the ground in Manila, near age 30, having grown up in the US and gone to public schools, that the Philippines had been a US Territory off and on, on par with Puerto Rico, for about 50 years starting around 1898. There's even a big obelisk in the center of Union Square in San Francisco commemorating this event, it turns out. None of this was ever covered in public schools. I realize there's a lot of history to cover and kids can only absorb so much, but when people talk about "only focusing on europe and the middle east" it's good to have a couple of concrete examples. The Philippines actually has a larger english speaking population than the UK. Anyways, it always seemed that the Philippines got conveniently swept under the rug when discussing things like WW2 and American Imperialism.

TaylorAlexander 5y ago
Yes certainly. I recently started listening to the audiobook A Peoples History of the United States and there is a LOT of history we don't cover. Right now I am listening to a talk by Noam Chomsky about inequality and it's remarkable that the top % of the wealthy that have control over the country also do not go to public schools. It's as if we have a second school system for the subservient class.
- colordrops 5y ago
  Why do you think they are cancelling AP classes in San Francisco and California under the guise of social justice? It's to further weaken the underclass since the rich don't even go to public school.
  - barbacoa 5y ago
    Having gone to high school in California, we never covered Mexican-american or Spanish-american wars, civil war focused almost exclusively on slavery. 90% of WW2 was about Japanese internment or how racist nuking Japan was. History of Communism was never mentioned for obvious reasons.
  - raegis 5y ago
    > Why do you think they are cancelling AP classes in San Francisco and California under the guise of social justice? Can you document this? I'm a southern California resident, and I keep hearing stuff like this from people online, but I know no local examples of this at all.
    - colordrops 5y ago
      https://edsource.org/2021/california-math-guidance-sparks-new-curriculum-controversy-among-parents/655272 https://edsource.org/2021/california-math-guidance-sparks-ne... https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/why-university-california-dropping-sat/619522/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/why-univer...
      - TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
        I read the first link and some supporting links like “a pathway to equitable math instruction”: https://equitablemath.org/ https://equitablemath.org/ This is…. Reprehensible
        alasdair_ 5y ago
        In what way?
jessaustin 5y ago
The Army ran out of Native Americans to massacre, so they arranged another indigenous group to terrorize for the next several decades. (It really was the same racist officers doing the same racist shit.) Some Filipinos had thought USA military would join them in overthrowing Spanish tyranny, but they soon discovered the actual intent was to replace Spain. Decent Americans like Mark Twain were horrified, but the war media was full of lies about subhuman savages who needed American government so most Americans had no idea. Plus ça change...
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  In this context should point to the War Prayer https://warprayer.org/ https://warprayer.org/ which Twain probably wrote in response to the Spanish-American war.
spfzero 5y ago
Hmm, don’t know what school you went to, but in my American public school they certainly covered the Spanish-American war, and the consequent status of the Philippines. Spanish colony, turned over to the U.S., taken over by Japan, independant after WWII ended.
pomian 5y ago
An excellent source for USA/Philippine history, and other history is Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcasts. This one in particular for that topic: https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-49-the-american-peril/ https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-49-the-am... But all his podcasts are phenomenal