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>for the sake of argument that a hypothetical bug requires you to have more than ten contacts of the exact same name and these also need to share the same count
by NullPrefix 5y ago
>for the sake of argument that a hypothetical bug requires you to have more than ten contacts of the exact same name and these also need to share the same country and area code
This is only rare if you have a small social circle. My circle has multiple first name-collisions of at least 5 participants, but my circle is not very big and the area code is also quite small.
Some countries do not use area codes for mobile phone numbers, which are used for Signal, meaning country code is the only area limiting factor.
- desine 5y ago>for the sake of argument
- NullPrefix 5y agoYes. And for the sake of the same argument I made a counter argument, stating that some initially believed to be rare circumstances are actually not that rare.
- hnarn 5y ago"For the sake of argument" does not mean "I invite you to debate this", it means the exact opposite: "let's assume this is correct/we agree/etc. for a while and debate what comes after". So in this case you are doing the exact opposite of what the phrase "for the sake of argument" is requesting. https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/for+the+sake+of+argument https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/for+the+sake+of+argumen... > I know you want to go to Stanford, but just for the sake of argument, let's talk about what some of the other schools you got into have to offer. This does not mean "I invite you to make a counter-argument as to why no other schools than Stanford are worth going to".
- NullPrefix 5y agoOKay, M[rs] English-as-a-first-language.
- hnarn 5y agoEnglish is my second language.
- qu4z-2 5y agoIt sounds to me like NullPrefix accepted the hypothetical bug, for the sake of the argument, and then addressed the rarity assumptions made about that bug. "For the sake of argument" doesn't mean "No debating" it means "Let's assume some thing x is taken as a given and go from there."
- hnarn 5y agoThe whole point was that "given this assumed rare bug, one can know it's pretty rare". Whether the example is actually rare enough is completely beside the point. If it's not rare enough for you, replace it. The argument comes next: given a rare bug, a developer can make an assumption of how rare it is. Debating the example of rareness is splitting hairs.
- johnisgood 5y agoThere is no argument, and it did not require a counter-argument, because that is not the point. He could have used literally anything else, it just has to be rare.
- hutrdvnj 5y agoWell he just wanted to make an example. One could also construct an example, where the bug only occurs for people with a rare sequence of unicode symbols (e.g. U+2600 U+2601 U+2602) in their username and have a specific date (e.g. 05.04.1920) as their birthday.
- NullPrefix 5y agoYour argument depends on Signal implementing username support, because we do not support unicode in phone numbers.
- hutrdvnj 5y agoMy argument depends on an alternate universe in which signal supports it, everything else being equal, because why not.
- NullPrefix 5y agoDoes that alternate universe support phone numbers with unicode characters too?
- ChrisKnott 5y agoYou are arguing against a hypothetical situation of your opponent's creation. This is like when Ross tried to beat Chandler at Cups
- hutrdvnj 5y agoI go to bed now and dream of a universe in which NullPrefix is Ross and continues to argue endlessly.
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