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> Is there an argument for not having Amazon as an employer in these towns? > Why aren't they providing this alternative? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirv
by beckman466 5y ago
> Is there an argument for not having Amazon as an employer in these towns?
> Why aren't they providing this alternative?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy#Perfect_soluti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy#Perfect_soluti...
Why are you opposed to this critique? You can offer critique without needing to provide alternatives. From your questions it sounds like you yourself are falling victim to the 'just world fallacy'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
If you have/had kids, would you be excited to hear the following story from them about their day? Probably not, yet this is exactly what's happened in marginalized communities.
From the article:
""A dozen students sat clustered at work tables inside an air-conditioned classroom, which was designed to emulate the inside of an Amazon facility. On one wall, Amazon’s giant logo grinned across a yellow and green banner. The words “CUSTOMER OBSESSION” and “DELIVER RESULTS” were painted against a corporate-style yellow backdrop. On a whiteboard, a teacher had written the words “Logistics Final Project,” and the lesson of the day was on Amazon’s “14 Leadership Principles.” Each teenager wore a company golf shirt emblazoned with the Amazon logo.
Students and staff members expressed pride in being associated with the company. Amazon partnered with the school as part of its five-year anniversary in the Inland Empire, donating $50,000 to start the pilot program, the giant sweepstakes-style Amazon check displayed prominently at the classroom entrance. The students had already taken field trips to tour the nearby Amazon warehouse."
A public high-school classroom designed to resemble an Amazon facility, with students wearing Amazon logos on their clothing as they memorize Amazon’s leadership principles (which, it is worth noting, also include “Ownership” and “Think Big,” injunctions that hold merit for readers of this magazine when imagining how we might solve the problems exemplified by Amazon). Such a relationship between the company and public goods like a high school is part of what it means to consider Amazon as “the major working-class space of suburban and exurban socialization.”
The behemoth is here, producing not only profit but people, too. That entails corporate indoctrination, social estrangement, and profound alienation from one’s labor, which is particularly meaningless as one breaks one’s body to get so many goods to people’s doors."
- aww_dang 5y agoEmployees work for Amazon because it is an improvement over their current situation. If it wasn't an improvement, they wouldn't take the job. Whether they deserve it or not is something the employee has to evaluate, along with the subjective valuation of their labor. If there's an alternative where employees could earn more for less labor, that might be a good opportunity to explore. Not just for the employees, but any potential entrepreneurs as well. There are several areas where I feel critical of Amazon's policies. Voluntary employment isn't one of them. Nor am I a fan of the public education system. If I found myself in that situation, it would be a teachable moment.