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Any reason you're singling out Inglourious Basterds in particular? In general, though, I do not believe that this problem is at all limited to the kind of art

Any reason you're singling out Inglourious Basterds in particular? In general, though, I do not believe that this problem is at all limited to the kind of art that we commonly dub as "fiction". For example, in the 19th century, travel diaries of colonial "explorers" were a very popular form of literature consumed by the educated classes in the colonial metropole, and they consisted almost entirely of distortions, willful or accidental omissions and often outright lies. Yet, they helped shape the view the West has of "oriental" cultures and peoples, with many of these cliches persisting even to the current age (i.e. "Orientalism"). Therefore, following your logic, all scientific works are damaging.

narag 5y ago
Any reason you're singling out Inglourious Basterds in particular? Embellishing stories has kind of a social function: to sugar-coat our vision of life. Reality is scary. When the author presents a blatant lie just because, it's only annoying. At least for me, that movie and the last one are a scam. Sure, there must be a "profound" explanation of director's intentions.
- orhmeh09 5y ago
  Most children quickly develop an appreciation for the distinction between things clearly delineated and presented as fiction before they hit double digits of age. It’s quite peculiar to accuse artists of trying to scam you. Have you ever played a video game? What do you think of them?
  - narag 5y ago
    Not sure the source but there is a rule in fiction that everything has a purpose, as opposed to reality. If the camera stops in an axe, you can be sure someone is going to wield it later. There is no purpose in those alternate realities, other than being a sadistic fantasy, as another comment points to. Tarantino's universe is very familiar to me. It's based on the series B (or worse) films that we watched as teens. There is an interesting exploration in Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill of the obsessive thoughts that old movies raised presenting extreme situations. I do enjoy goofy details like Uma Thurman in the plane with a katana in the hand luggage. But this is part of the assumed over-the-top tone. Like you said, it's clearly delineated and presented as fiction. The others not so much. A counterfactual historic movie? Now it seems I'm supposed to learn about the plot before watching the movie, or just avoid Tarantino, because I've had enough of that bs.
    - speakeron 5y ago
      > Not sure the source but there is a rule in fiction that everything has a purpose, as opposed to reality. If the camera stops in an axe, you can be sure someone is going to wield it later. That's from Anton Checkov. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun
- dalbasal 5y ago
  The authors stated intention was to depict a widely held, indulgent, sadistic fantasy.
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narag 5y ago

Any reason you're singling out Inglourious Basterds in particular? Embellishing stories has kind of a social function: to sugar-coat our vision of life. Reality is scary. When the author presents a blatant lie just because, it's only annoying. At least for me, that movie and the last one are a scam. Sure, there must be a "profound" explanation of director's intentions.

orhmeh09 5y ago
Most children quickly develop an appreciation for the distinction between things clearly delineated and presented as fiction before they hit double digits of age. It’s quite peculiar to accuse artists of trying to scam you. Have you ever played a video game? What do you think of them?
- narag 5y ago
  Not sure the source but there is a rule in fiction that everything has a purpose, as opposed to reality. If the camera stops in an axe, you can be sure someone is going to wield it later. There is no purpose in those alternate realities, other than being a sadistic fantasy, as another comment points to. Tarantino's universe is very familiar to me. It's based on the series B (or worse) films that we watched as teens. There is an interesting exploration in Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill of the obsessive thoughts that old movies raised presenting extreme situations. I do enjoy goofy details like Uma Thurman in the plane with a katana in the hand luggage. But this is part of the assumed over-the-top tone. Like you said, it's clearly delineated and presented as fiction. The others not so much. A counterfactual historic movie? Now it seems I'm supposed to learn about the plot before watching the movie, or just avoid Tarantino, because I've had enough of that bs.
  - speakeron 5y ago
    > Not sure the source but there is a rule in fiction that everything has a purpose, as opposed to reality. If the camera stops in an axe, you can be sure someone is going to wield it later. That's from Anton Checkov. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun
dalbasal 5y ago
The authors stated intention was to depict a widely held, indulgent, sadistic fantasy.
- deleted 5y ago
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