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> legal emergency measure, for which the key requirement is there are no other viable treatments. Dexamethasone is an approved, cheap drug that is now also rec

> legal emergency measure, for which the key requirement is there are no other viable treatments. Dexamethasone is an approved, cheap drug that is now also recommended by the FDA to treat covid-19. The theory there’s some conspiracy by government authorities to deny any approved drug is working on covid is clearly bogus. The FDA will be granting full, not emergency, approval to the Pfizer covid-19 vaccine in the coming months, and then this argument falls apart completely.[1] > I don't think there is serious controversy that the vaccine rollout is being used as leverage for imposing digital identity schemes and for establishing a variety of other ostensibly temporary powers that will not be rolled back Seems like nonsense, only two states have rolled out a vaccine “passport” (nothing like the actual passport schemes created in China and some foreign countries to reopen economies faster - the US version is just a digital document similar to how you can buy a railroad fare digitally) and the latest reporting is that Biden’s covid team is blocking incoming travel from Europe because they are opposed to vaccine passports, fearing that conspiracy theorists wouldn’t get a vaccine if they allow vaccinated travelers from Europe to prove their status and visit.[2] 1. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07/when-will-covid-19-vaccines-be-fully-approved-and-does-it-matter-if-they-are https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07/when-will-covid-19-v... 2. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/17/biden-covid-czar-obstacle-499908 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/17/biden-covid-czar-ob...

motohagiography 5y ago
Agreed that treatments and FDA approval will change the dynamics and medical need for c19 vaccination - when they happen. Dexamethasone is a corticocosteroid used as an immunosuppressor to clear airways, and not an alleged prophalactic treatment like Ivermectin, or an antiviral like HCQ, so that's a bit of a misdirection in comparing it to a treatment. It's like saying a defibrillator is an alternative heart disease treatment. And if there are treatments, passports are unnecessary. If you have followed the hesitancy reasoning and indeed, now movement judging by european protests, there is a consistent logic in their objections. They aren't standard hippie anti-vaxers. Whether the facts their logic uses as premises are true or falsifiable should be the focus of debate. Maybe there's an example of what level of c19 vaccination is strictly necessary to reopen economies that bears some scrutiny. If we keep enabling this constant apopleptic personal response to people with legitimate questions, we're going to lose a good 30%+ of people who don't respond to that kind of thing.

motohagiography 5y ago

Agreed that treatments and FDA approval will change the dynamics and medical need for c19 vaccination - when they happen. Dexamethasone is a corticocosteroid used as an immunosuppressor to clear airways, and not an alleged prophalactic treatment like Ivermectin, or an antiviral like HCQ, so that's a bit of a misdirection in comparing it to a treatment. It's like saying a defibrillator is an alternative heart disease treatment. And if there are treatments, passports are unnecessary. If you have followed the hesitancy reasoning and indeed, now movement judging by european protests, there is a consistent logic in their objections. They aren't standard hippie anti-vaxers. Whether the facts their logic uses as premises are true or falsifiable should be the focus of debate. Maybe there's an example of what level of c19 vaccination is strictly necessary to reopen economies that bears some scrutiny. If we keep enabling this constant apopleptic personal response to people with legitimate questions, we're going to lose a good 30%+ of people who don't respond to that kind of thing.