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Maybe if it was only the people who did the jobs that no one wants to do who get paid then people wouldn’t be trying to get rid of the money system. How many th

Maybe if it was only the people who did the jobs that no one wants to do who get paid then people wouldn’t be trying to get rid of the money system. How many thousands of years would a dishwasher need to work in order to earn what someone does in one year from making 100 million in a year as a corporate fat cat, a sports player, movie star or a business owner

okr 5y ago
If you can wash dishes for a billion people in the world, freeing everyone from the burden of taking, sorting, drying, washing dishes, putting all dish washers out of work, i guess, you can become pretty rich too. People will have time to do something else.
ben_w 5y ago
How much money should the modern inventor of the electric dishwasher receive, given the labour saved by the invention? And as much as I utterly fail to get spectator sports in general, footballers get their money specifically because people pay to watch their teams and the teams are more popular when they win and therefore the teams directly bid against each other for the best players. Similar logic for movies and their stars, and in both cases there are a lot of people at the bottom who do similar things for approximately nothing as it’s fun — but they’re not the best in the world at what they do, and only the best can compete with the best. The connection in sports and media is a lot more direct than asking if (and how much) a corporation’s overall performance can be attributed to the skills of given fat cat acting as a multiplier on the work done by those under them. And then you have the last question: what is the stuff which must be done? Most individuals could live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, yet no city (UK definition rather than USA) can survive everyone trying that at the same time, let alone the whole world. Is shipping in the “must have” list? If just shipping stopped, much of the UK would starve even if everyone turned their gardens into personal farms like in WW2. Who makes the ships? Who digs up the raw materials for the ship?
- suifbwish 5y ago
  You seem to think I don’t understand why these people get paid large sums. That is not so. I merely said these people/“jobs” are the reason many are for doing away with the current money system as a means for ensuring essential work that no one wants to do is done. Personally I am for federal laws that impose a logarithmic tax scaling system where anything over $2 million personal income in owned assets is taxed at an 75% rate and an emigration tax of 95%. The only rights are what the people decide is right. I’m so tired of hearing about how people are entitled to this and that unquestionably. No one is entitled to anything but what everyone else is willing to let them have and what they are able to keep everyone else from taking. Right and wrong are about as real as the shapes and animals we are in clouds and smoke.

okr 5y ago

If you can wash dishes for a billion people in the world, freeing everyone from the burden of taking, sorting, drying, washing dishes, putting all dish washers out of work, i guess, you can become pretty rich too. People will have time to do something else.

ben_w 5y ago

How much money should the modern inventor of the electric dishwasher receive, given the labour saved by the invention? And as much as I utterly fail to get spectator sports in general, footballers get their money specifically because people pay to watch their teams and the teams are more popular when they win and therefore the teams directly bid against each other for the best players. Similar logic for movies and their stars, and in both cases there are a lot of people at the bottom who do similar things for approximately nothing as it’s fun — but they’re not the best in the world at what they do, and only the best can compete with the best. The connection in sports and media is a lot more direct than asking if (and how much) a corporation’s overall performance can be attributed to the skills of given fat cat acting as a multiplier on the work done by those under them. And then you have the last question: what is the stuff which must be done? Most individuals could live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, yet no city (UK definition rather than USA) can survive everyone trying that at the same time, let alone the whole world. Is shipping in the “must have” list? If just shipping stopped, much of the UK would starve even if everyone turned their gardens into personal farms like in WW2. Who makes the ships? Who digs up the raw materials for the ship?

suifbwish 5y ago
You seem to think I don’t understand why these people get paid large sums. That is not so. I merely said these people/“jobs” are the reason many are for doing away with the current money system as a means for ensuring essential work that no one wants to do is done. Personally I am for federal laws that impose a logarithmic tax scaling system where anything over $2 million personal income in owned assets is taxed at an 75% rate and an emigration tax of 95%. The only rights are what the people decide is right. I’m so tired of hearing about how people are entitled to this and that unquestionably. No one is entitled to anything but what everyone else is willing to let them have and what they are able to keep everyone else from taking. Right and wrong are about as real as the shapes and animals we are in clouds and smoke.