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Even when a company is facing an existential crisis, your estimation is important to help decide if they need to provide additional resources or even replace yo

Even when a company is facing an existential crisis, your estimation is important to help decide if they need to provide additional resources or even replace you if you're not able to do the job (among many other things). They're not going to throw money at you forever, and demanding blind trust is completely unreasonable, especially so in an existential crisis. There is simply never a situation where not having a sense of when work will be completed is acceptable. You cannot concoct a scenario where that's okay, and the fact that you're trying to kind of reinforces my point about work vs. value. There is no "infinite value" scenario, that doesn't exist.

axegon_ 5y ago
Pretty sure I just gave you 3 examples where no one cared how much X would cost. "We want it by Q3, figure it out". Where is the documentation? "¯\_(ツ)_/¯". Who built the old system? "Last one died in 98". Who knows how X works? "¯\_(ツ)_/¯, you're smart, you'll figure it out, just remember, Q3". As I said you're either lucky or speaking from the so called "top management" perspective. Things look very different for average Joe.
- TameAntelope 5y ago
  Yeah, average Joe in your examples here isn’t being given the whole picture. I’m not sure what your point actually is; are you saying that since Story Points don’t help you specifically, they’re a waste? Don’t you get how myopic that is?
  - axegon_ 5y ago
    My point is that they are often as relevant to reality as the flying spaghetti monster to spaghetti. Read my previous comments dump whatever you have in memory in an s3 bucket? Story point 0-give me 10 minutes. Then why did it take a week and a half? Cause someone from another team across the world has to grant permissions which was 3 days of discussions, then the VPN was messed up, which took another 2 teams on the other end of the planet 4 days to fix, 10 minutes to code it and 10 minutes for the cicd pipeline to deploy it. 0 story points, right. That's my entire problem with evangelistic crap like (fr)agile, story points, sprints, epics and so on: they do not reflect reality in any shape or form.
    - TameAntelope 5y ago
      Well yeah, agile works best when everyone involved is in the room.

axegon_ 5y ago

Pretty sure I just gave you 3 examples where no one cared how much X would cost. "We want it by Q3, figure it out". Where is the documentation? "¯\_(ツ)_/¯". Who built the old system? "Last one died in 98". Who knows how X works? "¯\_(ツ)_/¯, you're smart, you'll figure it out, just remember, Q3". As I said you're either lucky or speaking from the so called "top management" perspective. Things look very different for average Joe.

TameAntelope 5y ago
Yeah, average Joe in your examples here isn’t being given the whole picture. I’m not sure what your point actually is; are you saying that since Story Points don’t help you specifically, they’re a waste? Don’t you get how myopic that is?
- axegon_ 5y ago
  My point is that they are often as relevant to reality as the flying spaghetti monster to spaghetti. Read my previous comments dump whatever you have in memory in an s3 bucket? Story point 0-give me 10 minutes. Then why did it take a week and a half? Cause someone from another team across the world has to grant permissions which was 3 days of discussions, then the VPN was messed up, which took another 2 teams on the other end of the planet 4 days to fix, 10 minutes to code it and 10 minutes for the cicd pipeline to deploy it. 0 story points, right. That's my entire problem with evangelistic crap like (fr)agile, story points, sprints, epics and so on: they do not reflect reality in any shape or form.
  - TameAntelope 5y ago
    Well yeah, agile works best when everyone involved is in the room.