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Funny, my experience has been that windows users had trouble to connect their fancy bluetooth headsets with the proper profile, or they forgot to charge their a

Funny, my experience has been that windows users had trouble to connect their fancy bluetooth headsets with the proper profile, or they forgot to charge their airpods and had to scramble to get a replacement earphone... all the linux devs on my team (myself included) manage to connect to zoom, slack or google meet without any issue. The difference is we know already what works with our equipment and what doesn't, so we don't wait until the last minute to figure out if some gadget can be used in an important setting? Also important, some of the engineers that "for some reason prefer Linux" know something that you don't, like the importance of adopting open standards and buying from hardware companies that do not lock you in into their ecosystem?

pjmlp 5y ago
Maybe when this crisis is over, those Linux devs should come one day earlier when trying to do presentations on our beamers, instead of showing us the configuration mighty of xrandr.
- rglullis 5y ago
  It's the other day around. You should be asking them what beamers they would be able to use on their Linux systems with good support and that does not require complicated tools, instead of buying something that is not supported (yet!) and claiming later that Linux is crap because it doesn't work for your particular type of hardware.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Except at the end of the day catering for 1% of the desktop is too much to ask for to cripple business operations with, when 99% of everyone else is coming in with Windows and macOS laptops.
    - rglullis 5y ago
      Not at all. The peripherals that work with Linux also will (likely) work with Windows or MacOS.
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      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Yeah, and usually more constraint in capabilities.
        rglullis 5y ago
        If by "capability" you mean not supporting some latest standard that provides marginal benefit over established solutions (e.g, Wi-Fi b/n/c/whatever, "cloud printing") or anti-features (Apple's "Pro" touchbar), then yes. But if you mean being able to do anything actually useful, I'd say that maybe only those working with Audio Processing still are under-served by Linux Desktop - and even that will change soon with Pipewire.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        Yeah, yet another reboot on the GNU/Linux desktop stack, I lost count of them.
        rglullis 5y ago
        You are really grasping at straws here. We are talking about Linux support for devices in a traditional work environment and I can seriously say that has been more than adequate for more than 10 years. How many backward-incompatible API changes does Apple push every couple of OS versions? How many dongles were people forced to buy to continue using whatever peripheral they had already working? Can you please stop with the goal-post moving?
        pjmlp 5y ago
        First you need to place the goals on the original position, I wasn't the one starting to talk about audio or whatever.
        5y ago

pjmlp 5y ago

Maybe when this crisis is over, those Linux devs should come one day earlier when trying to do presentations on our beamers, instead of showing us the configuration mighty of xrandr.

rglullis 5y ago
It's the other day around. You should be asking them what beamers they would be able to use on their Linux systems with good support and that does not require complicated tools, instead of buying something that is not supported (yet!) and claiming later that Linux is crap because it doesn't work for your particular type of hardware.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Except at the end of the day catering for 1% of the desktop is too much to ask for to cripple business operations with, when 99% of everyone else is coming in with Windows and macOS laptops.
  - rglullis 5y ago
    Not at all. The peripherals that work with Linux also will (likely) work with Windows or MacOS.
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    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Yeah, and usually more constraint in capabilities.
      - rglullis 5y ago
        If by "capability" you mean not supporting some latest standard that provides marginal benefit over established solutions (e.g, Wi-Fi b/n/c/whatever, "cloud printing") or anti-features (Apple's "Pro" touchbar), then yes. But if you mean being able to do anything actually useful, I'd say that maybe only those working with Audio Processing still are under-served by Linux Desktop - and even that will change soon with Pipewire.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        Yeah, yet another reboot on the GNU/Linux desktop stack, I lost count of them.
        rglullis 5y ago
        You are really grasping at straws here. We are talking about Linux support for devices in a traditional work environment and I can seriously say that has been more than adequate for more than 10 years. How many backward-incompatible API changes does Apple push every couple of OS versions? How many dongles were people forced to buy to continue using whatever peripheral they had already working? Can you please stop with the goal-post moving?
        pjmlp 5y ago
        First you need to place the goals on the original position, I wasn't the one starting to talk about audio or whatever.
        5y ago