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It’s fine, a lot of people still use Safari on desktop despite Google Chrome being available. And developers have to support it all the same

by SPBS 5y ago

sbuk 5y ago
The same was true when IE dominated. The point being missed is if a single browser is allowed to dominate across the board, the owners of the technology become the gatekeepers of web technologies. That would have been extremely bad under Microsoft, and it is going that way with Google. In fact, there was a groundswell of negativity towards WebKit until Google broke the hegemony with by forking it, creating Blink. Which is now in a significantly more dominant position than WebKit ever was. I’m not suggesting that Apple would be any better or that not allowing other browser engines is a good thing. However, the fact that they don’t is keeping Google/Chrome/Blink from having total dominance of the web.
cbovis 5y ago
I'm a regular desktop Safari user and you'd be surprised how many websites are just flat out broken in Safari, especially government sites. Part of the reason I use it as my daily driver is to ensure that the websites I'm working on get tested properly in Safari since the defacto browser for most developers seems to be Chrome.
- jefftk 5y ago
  I wish Apple would make a Safari for Windows or Linux. That the only way to test that your site works properly in Safari is to buy Apple hardware is certainly a contributor to sites being broken in it.
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    It’s not a perfect analogue, but under Linux, Epiphany/Gnome Web is a reasonably close match for most purposes. Not sure about Windows.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    They had Safari for Windows for several years, but abandoned it because it didn't gain enough market share.
  - ksec 5y ago
    That is the point, they want user to complain to Site owners for not working on Safari and forcing them to Buy Apple Hardware. Basically if you want to serve the 1.4B Active Apple Devices which nearly all use Safari, you have to buy an Apple hardware to test it.
toper-centage 5y ago
The main reason safari is used in desktop is because other browsers are not first class citizens. They have access to resources that third parties don't.

It’s fine, a lot of people still use Safari on desktop despite Google Chrome being available. And developers have to support it all the same

by SPBS 5y ago

It’s fine, a lot of people still use Safari on desktop despite Google Chrome being available. And developers have to support it all the same

sbuk 5y ago

The same was true when IE dominated. The point being missed is if a single browser is allowed to dominate across the board, the owners of the technology become the gatekeepers of web technologies. That would have been extremely bad under Microsoft, and it is going that way with Google. In fact, there was a groundswell of negativity towards WebKit until Google broke the hegemony with by forking it, creating Blink. Which is now in a significantly more dominant position than WebKit ever was. I’m not suggesting that Apple would be any better or that not allowing other browser engines is a good thing. However, the fact that they don’t is keeping Google/Chrome/Blink from having total dominance of the web.

cbovis 5y ago

I'm a regular desktop Safari user and you'd be surprised how many websites are just flat out broken in Safari, especially government sites. Part of the reason I use it as my daily driver is to ensure that the websites I'm working on get tested properly in Safari since the defacto browser for most developers seems to be Chrome.

jefftk 5y ago
I wish Apple would make a Safari for Windows or Linux. That the only way to test that your site works properly in Safari is to buy Apple hardware is certainly a contributor to sites being broken in it.
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  It’s not a perfect analogue, but under Linux, Epiphany/Gnome Web is a reasonably close match for most purposes. Not sure about Windows.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  They had Safari for Windows for several years, but abandoned it because it didn't gain enough market share.
- ksec 5y ago
  That is the point, they want user to complain to Site owners for not working on Safari and forcing them to Buy Apple Hardware. Basically if you want to serve the 1.4B Active Apple Devices which nearly all use Safari, you have to buy an Apple hardware to test it.

toper-centage 5y ago

The main reason safari is used in desktop is because other browsers are not first class citizens. They have access to resources that third parties don't.